Kinda excited to go all the way and swap my last holdout. The last thing Windows forces me to do.
kescusay@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Translation: “Install Linux.”
inbeesee@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
WhiteBurrito@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I would, except there’s always some software or some feature missing. And there’s always the FOSS app that “might” meet “some” aspects of what native software does but it’s almost always never “native” support.
Sure, I know I can play MOST games on Linux, but I know for a fact they’ll launch on windows.
Or things like, sure, I know that my corsair Hardware MIGHT be controlled by signal RGB, but what about controlling the pump in my AIO? Or the sound levels on ny headset? Or the DPI in my mouse?
Then you have things like drivers. I’m not using any Nvidia GPUs right now, but the nvidia support for Linux is atrocious and you lose access to things like RTX-HDR and RTX Voice, and hell, even in AMD you lose access to certain features like AMFM2.
Then the software, not only does things like Adobe or Office just don’t exist, the FOSS solutions are not industry standard, so sure, I can learn to use LibreOffice, but that’s worth absolutely nothing when you apply for a corporate job and they expect you to know how to use outlook as a bare minimum, hell, even the Google office suite is being adopted faster… Ah, but if the software is available there’s still a chance it doesn’t work because it’s missing a dependency or something and you have to ask people to use the terminal and… Sigh
All in all, it’s just behind in many ways, sure, for some people it’s ok, and for laptops I’d think is mostly ok, great even. But I know I could deal with Linux, and I don’t want to troubleshoot a whole PC to play a game when I already spend the whole day dealing with solving issues or servers or services on my job.
I’m rooting for Steam OS to release to desktops because my living room PC is LITERALLY just for gaming, so that “could” work nicely.
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 5 weeks ago
Hardware MIGHT be controlled by signal RGB
OpenRGB to the rescue: flathub.org/apps/org.openrgb.OpenRGB
controlling the pump in my AIO?
What do you need to control about your pump? I sure hope it works without OS support.
Or the sound levels on ny headset?
Move the volume slider up or down?
Or the DPI in my mouse?
Save them to the mouse as profile if it can or use Piper: flathub.org/apps/org.freedesktop.Piper
in AMD you lose access to certain features like AMFM2
FSR Frame Gen works just fine, not sure why you need fake frames in more games.
the FOSS solutions are not industry standard, so sure, I can learn to use LibreOffice, but that’s worth absolutely nothing when you apply for a corporate job and they expect you to know how to use outlook as a bare minimum
There is also OnlyOffice and online MS Office. Not sure what you need to know about Outlook to open it and use your eyes to read the mails.
even the Google office suite is being adopted faster
Good news, it runs in a browser and works on every OS!
Ah, but if the software is available there’s still a chance it doesn’t work because it’s missing a dependency or something and you have to ask people to use the terminal and… Sigh
I have not fixed dependencies issue on Linux since the early 2000s. Flatpaks are your friend flathub.org .
All in all, it’s just behind in many ways, sure, for some people it’s ok, and for laptops I’d think is mostly ok, great even.
I run it on my high end PC and I disagree. It’s ahead in many ways.
- The graphics drivers are included and don’t need any bloated software to work
- It has a banger OpenGL driver, which makes games like Minecraft run significantly faster.
- It has a very active community for game support for games where the developer does not care
- It translates older DirectX versions to Vulkan automatically, resulting in a performance uplift and more stability. People on Windows are installing DXVK just so older games work. Look up DXVK in the Steam forums.
- It downloads shader caches from Valve, preventing shader stutter in games that don’t do it on their own
That list could go on for a while and it’s only for gaming.
I haven’t even gone into installation and not having to run ShutUp10 every time just to make the OS usable. Or how KDE is so much cleaner than Windows. Or how I don’t have any ads in my start menu, don’t have to force download Candy Crush on first boot, don’t have pre-installed apps I can’t remove, don’t have to block my own OS in its firewall to get rid of telemetry, don’t have to be told that I need to upgrade to Windows 11 constantly.
For work: Docker just works, complex networking setups are not a pain to setup, creating VMs is so much easier and has so many more features. VPN is so seamlessly setup. I can read almost every file system on the planet and use ROCm without jumping through hoops. Not to mention I don’t get Copilot and Recall shoved down my throat.
Are there issues on Linux? Sure, lots of them. But if I find them I can tell somebody about it and don’t have to deal with them for centuries.
I’m rooting for Steam OS to release to desktops because my living room PC is LITERALLY just for gaming, so that “could” work nicely.
SteamOS is just a modern Linux distro with Steam pre-installed and in autostart. If stuff works there, it works on regular Linux just as well.
Bazzite achieves the same thing right now: bazzite.gg
kescusay@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Excellent breakdown. Well done!
And on top of all that, the article is specifically about Microsoft urging people to get rid of old hardware, which I take to mean NOT current-gen, bleeding-edge gaming hardware. So my suggestion was about not being forced to upgrade your hardware to keep having a usable computer.
WhiteBurrito@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The pump works without software obviously, but iCue let’s you change the speed of the pump.
Sound levels of the headset refers to the equalizer profiles.
FSR Frame gen ISN’T AFMF, which is great on older games capped at 60fps where you can easily get 120fps and it honestly feels fine.
and of course I know steamOS is just a distro, but they actually fine tuned stuff for gaming, and like I said, if you’re only gaming, sure SteamOS/Bazzite or whatever might just work. But if you use your computer for basically anything else, most people will still have issues.
All of what you described is just EXTRA work people need to know just to play games. The reality is that most “solutions” are always workarounds or alternatives. Most people prefer NATIVE first party support.
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I really want to put Linux on my gaming PC, but I’m doubtful I can get my Rift S working on there. :/
Apparently there is an openxr driver for it, so I suppose I should at least give it a shot.
zenpocalypse@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Nobara or Pop! OS would be good choices.
Yeah, VR is still catching up, but I feel like (dual) booting to Win 10 just for specific purposes would greatly reduce the risk.
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I’d just be scared of windows trying to clobber my nix partition.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Use separate disks.
acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
Haven’t had issues since the 2000s. Use a separate boot partition, use UEFI, you’re golden.
zenpocalypse@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Personally, I’ve never had trouble even with partitions, but Windows isn’t going to mess with drives that aren’t NTFS.
Nightwish76@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Just installed ZorinOS on my PC (dual boot with Windows 11) and I’m playing Diablo 4 on Linux. How cool is this?
zenpocalypse@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
It’s so cool. We’ve been waiting for Linux to cover gaming and it really has with the push from Steam.
steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Baiter is better imo
zenpocalypse@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I’ve heard people like that one. I didn’t try it, but I love Nobara as my primary OS.
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 5 weeks ago
Your best shot is with Monado, which supports the Rift S: monado.freedesktop.org
I only have an Index, so I can’t speak for how well it works or how easy it is to setup.
sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I got my meta quest 2 working on Linux, so you should definitely just try :)
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I did read that there were some input issues with the d-pads not working, but that was also 2 years ago. So you’re right, I should!
Pretty sure I’ve got an old drive around somewhere that I could toss it on.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Yeah, this is why I never got into VR, the Linux support blows even if you get a supported headset because the games aren’t made for Linux. There are some games, sure, but it’s not worth spending $1k+ on an Index.
I’ll use it once the barrier to entry drops.
DrDystopia@lemy.lol 5 weeks ago
As someone who routinely used to sink thousands of hours into games, and by that I mean 3000 hrs. on R6-3, 2500 hrs. on Squad and so on, the predatory practices of Microsoft, Steam and game developers have just turned me off gaming completely.
dan1101@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
There are still good game publishers like CD Projekt Red and Warhorse Studios. Plus lots of open source and indie gems. Gaming is a lot more than AAA and MOBAs.