Basically declaring that they don’t allow free speech.
It’s a privately owned platform. You never have an assurance of free speech on any of those, and on Reddit, the rot set in years ago.
Comment on Reddit will warn users who repeatedly upvote banned content
MTK@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Basically declaring that they don’t allow free speech.
“Hey, you have been liking things we disagree with and we need an echo chamber here, align with us or fuck off. Sincerely, the money hungry bitches of the internet! Also heil daddy musk!”
futatorius@lemm.ee 3 days ago
MTK@lemmy.world 3 days ago
There is a big jump from “we are a private company and we have internal rules” to “we are a private company and our internal rules that directly go against human rights”
WindyRebel@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Based on what I read in the posted article, everyone is making a big leap here. Of course I expect you all to be right in the end based on Reddit being a shitshow, but we don’t know what the content they are referring to is exactly.
For all we know, they are only referring to stuff like human trafficking or child porn. The statement is vague.
Wilco@lemm.ee 2 days ago
I have a strange opinion, but here goes: The Right to Free Speech (Im in the US here), should protect you from censorship. Doing what Reddit is doing should be considered a Rights violation and we should be able to sue them into the ground.
samus12345@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Terrible idea. Any site that bans for hate speech would also be a rights violation. If a platform doesn’t share your values, leave it.
Wilco@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Yes, sadly, freedom of speech includes freedom of hate speech. The platform would have to rely on its users downvoting or ridiculing the offender rather than outright bans.
shaggyb@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Well, you are certainly entitled to that opinion even though it’s wrong, and I do think banning you for it is also wrong.
There’s a big difference between having ideas and taking actions. Ideas cannot be allowed to become illegal. Even disgusting ones.
The correct response to unconscionable ideas is social, not institutional.
Wilco@lemm.ee 2 days ago
That is the point I was making about Twitter, and it applies to Reddit as well. You have to stop that radicalization socially, they need their hands slapped to know that they are wrong. Twitter and Reddit dont just let MAGA go crazy, they give them a safe space to do it in. They block us normal people from telling them they are being crazy. He’ll, Reddit let’s them throw people out if they don’t have Conservative flair (like a checkmark).
The institutions are preventing proper social responses to these hateful people.
Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 2 days ago
hypothetically speaking, if someone blew up their office HQ, that would send a powerful message. of course, if you have the balls to do that, there are some other offices that would probably be much better targets.
Bzdalderon@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
To be clear, they’re talking about banning right wing people. Reddit is one of the most liberal platforms you will find.
You can’t even talk economics on Reddit without being downvoted to fuck, or banned.
I am a centrist, and I routinely had posts removed and got banned from communities for saying things from actual textbooks taught currently in universities.
No one is attacking the free speech of the left unless it’s radical and advocating for physical harm.
Wilco@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Incorrect. I got banned yesterday for “Eat the Rich” and Luigi favoritism. I believe the post in question (you never know with a Reddit ban because they dont show you) was responding to someone’s post that mentioned the French Revolution with a Guillotine gif and “Git-r-Done”.
Yea, apparently I was plotting murder or something by doing that.
Bzdalderon@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
I mean, advocating for eating people is in itself a crime, so maybe the bot thought you were trying to push for cannibalism? 😂
Wilco@lemm.ee 2 days ago
The bot was probably right. That has been yelled a lot. Soylent Green is … Rich people!
Geodad@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Of course they don’t. They banned me 3 years ago for saying that if you have the chance, you should always punch a Nazi.
MTK@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Excuse me? If someone says they want a genocide you have to wait until they take over, only then are you allowed to support violence.
I’m against violence, I think that reasonable and even somewhat unreasonable people should be talked with. But if someone says “fuck you I will kill you” you should have the right to punch them, it is the same as self defence, because next time they will kill you.
Geodad@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I know. The two reactions when I tell people about that are usually either rage or amusement. I’m here now, so fuck Reddit.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 days ago
What was the actual reason they gave when they blocked your account. Because I had one of my accounts banned, but not for any logical reason, and they just gave me a made-up reason of I was being aggressive (I wasn’t being aggressive I was just pointing out to someone that he was gatekeeping, which he was).
For contacts the guy was trying to suggest that the only people who should be allowed to be employed in the software development industry are people with a relevant university level qualification, which was obviously stupid because it would block pretty much all of the current tech billionaires from their own companies.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 days ago
They permabanned two of my accounts during the election last year, just because I said I didn’t care when Trump said Liz Cheney should be shot. She’s a warmonger who’s called for violence against millions of innocent people. Not gonna clutch my pearls when anyone (even Trump) threatens her.