I think it’s pretty normal to be against anyone who wants to violently overthrow my government.
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NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Being a European, I am seeing extremists of both sides picking at each other.
No normal people left anymore?
dorkian_gray@lemmy.world 10 months ago
cedarmesa@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You see the thing with that is that you are wrong
Neato@kbin.social 10 months ago
Name one left extremist in a position of power.
Go ahead, tell on yourself.
speck@kbin.social 10 months ago
Bernie Sanders and AOC
(This is a joke)
mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 10 months ago
The sad part is that's the best there is for people on the left out of over 500 Congress people. Yet I still regularly have to listen to morons screech about socialism, communism, "cultural Marxism" etc.
jmp242@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Yes, so far at least the Democrats seem to be far less tolerant of extremists in politics. Maybe that’s untrue - but they tend to not be violent or wanting to overthrow the system. Part of it is how you define extremists - I’m more tolerant of people who want to campaign and try to make most any change via the democratic process via voting no matter their position. I’m less interested in those who feel we should invade the capital to try and overrule the outcomes of elections or violently intimidate opponents.
frezik@midwest.social 10 months ago
Oh, no, you’re spot on. Democrats have actively kept leftists from getting traction in the party. There’s a huge age gap between Bernie and AOC with no real progressives in between them. And they’re not even that far left.
mojo@lemm.ee 10 months ago
The name “do nothing democrats” is sadly very accurate. They are just letting the right wing extremists walk all over us. I’d like to imagine how much better our political system would be if we simply had an age cap on political positions. Of course the people in power will never vote themselves out though.
IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 10 months ago
Lol did you just do a “BoTh siDes” which leftist extremist have actual political power in the US.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Oh yes. Extreme Left Wing ideas like: Trans people deserve human rights, We should feed our children, We should forgive college loans to borrowers that are being burdened so heavily with debt they can’t start a family or buy homes (and the impact of it on the US Economy), Everyone has the right to vote. Wow…
shectabeni@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
You can always tell a disingenuous response with the both sides bullshit.
mojo@lemm.ee 10 months ago
They pretty much always respond with transphobic shit too
SirLukeJon@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It’s harder to see where the other side is coming from when you’re standing so far apart.
“Normal people,” or people anywhere in the middle of the two poles, who can see both sides still are generally pretty quiet now because they get attacked by one side for “sympathizing” with the other. I talk to both extremes daily in my line of work, and it’s exhausting to be respectful of either far-directional sentiment all day, every day
Redhotkurt@kbin.social 10 months ago
both sides
Only one side is banning books, man.
SirLukeJon@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I think you replied to the wrong comment, my guy
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I’m usually happy to hear an international perspective of us politics because it can be grounding. But you can’t “both sides” your way out of fascism. There is no far left institutional power in the us. Kindly keep your boot licking to yourself
DreamySweet@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
Normal people get attacked by both sides until they learn to be quiet.
Yendor@reddthat.com 10 months ago
The far-left purity test alienates many mostly-left people.
You can be pro-choice, pro-women, all for supporting the poor, gay rights and trans rights - but if you dare suggest that maybe trans women shouldn’t be competing against born women in top-level sports, then the vocal left brand you as a transphobic TERF whose opinion isn’t even worth listening to. They would rather fight you over the 2% of things you disagree on, than embrace you for the 98% of values you have in common.
The vocal left want diversity in color, gender and sexuality - but they will not tolerate any diversity in thought or opinion.
jmp242@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Indeed, this is the major problem on the left. It’s why there’s so much interest online in centrist “anti-woke” discussions and podcasts. But it’s also fertile recruiting ground for the far right - if you’re excommunicated for the 2% difference and actually, effectively canceled (I mean like a twitter mob actually gets you fired or the like), you’re more inclined to go where people support you, and all too often, that’s now the far right.
Identitarinasm doesn’t lead anywhere good IMO on either side, and we would do well to re-think that on the “loud” part of the left.
dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 10 months ago
No… They want people to be able to be themselves without being hounded by bigots. Somehow not a big going to ask imo. And yes, if you are talking about trans woman and AFAB in that way and preventing women from joining sports (which has included all levels of sports), yes, you’re being transphobic.
WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 10 months ago
both sides
Except “both sides” are right wing parties
AnonTwo@kbin.social 10 months ago
Odd, the topic is about a plan for 2025. It is not about two sides bickering at each other.
So weird you brought up a typical conservative argument without anything to prompt it.
ArghZombies@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I guess if you’re mostly happy with how something is then you’ve no reason to bring it up.
Nobody is writing long articles, posting tweets or appearing on TV shows to talk about it being quite nice that they can currently go and buy a beer from a shop. But someone could easily decide that they want to rile people up about the easiness of buying beer. And it all goes from there.
Sorchist@kbin.social 10 months ago
I mean we literally did that in the 1920s
thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
Alcohol consumption was like 800% higher before prohibition happened. It seems silly today, but alcohol abuse was a super rampant issue in the early 1900s.
overzeetop@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Lots of them, but normal doesn’t sell advertisements or make headlines. I see by the downvotes (or whatever Lemmy calls them) that you’ve been visited by the Reddit groupthink. It feels weird when it happens. Some of us just want everyone to get along…which feels radical in its own way.
JustZ@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Another dumbo heard from.
eran_morad@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Lol, feck off.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The US doesn’t have a left wing party. We have a extreme right wing party, and a center right wing party. This both sides shit is stupid as fuck. “We want to ban gays” is extreme. “We want gay people to have rights” is not
DharkStare@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I saw a comment on another post by a European explaining American politics to another European.
“Their left is our right, their right is our far right, and their far right are literal flag waving Nazis.”
snooggums@kbin.social 10 months ago
Accurate.