Comment on Microsoft gives up on users experiencing problems updating their Windows 11 machines. Now recommends a "manual correction"

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve ran

  I’ve run

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  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You are wrong. Ran is past tense of run.

    dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/…/run-into

    run into something

    present participle: running | past tense: ran | past participle: run

    If you run into problems, you begin to experience them:

    example: We ran into bad weather/debt/trouble.

    If you’re going to try to correct people, please make sure you’re actually right first.

    It’s ran. Because I’m talking about past events.

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    • ImFineJustABitTired@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s either “I ran into…” or “I have run into…”, it’s never “I have ran into…”

      So yeah, the one correcting you was right.

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    • MrLLM@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t mean to say that you’re completely wrong in your reasoning, but grammatically speaking, we use have + verb in past participle which we call present perfect no matter what verb is used.

      In this case, you’re talking about something you’ve experienced, so the correct way would be “I’ve run” (as the past participle of run is run).

      If you’d like to take a detailed look at it, here you have: Present Perfect - British Council and Using “have ran” or “have run”.

      Btw, It’s completely normal to make mistakes! We’re all human, and part of being human is learning and growing from our errors.

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• SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Windows is easy, bro, you just need to run this shady PowerShell script to get rid of ads, run this random EXE from github.ru to disable telemetry, install ClassicShell to make the UI actually usable, install a million utilities for basic features (each from a separate site, of course ; the centralized Windows Store is full of malwarei), then pray sfc /scannow fixes your system after each update.

  BTW, don’t bother searching for a solution to your problems other than “retry, reboot, reinstall” ; even certified MS professionals don’t know how anything works.

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• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  At least that shit is somewhat documented.

  If you are so sure about the way Linux is fully usable and understandable: Please tell me the proper way to set a static IP via terminal on Raspberry Pi OS and/or Debian bookworm.

  Because last I checked (about 4 weeks ago) it was basically impossible.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    At least that shit is somewhat documented.

    Uhm, Windows? No.

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Somewhat. That means partially.

      At least there arent 500 different ways to set a static IP.
      Don’t get me wrong. I like Linux but I can’t get warm witg it as a desktop OS besides SteamDeck.
      But I like it very much as a server OS.

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I do like the diversity. You learn a few patterns and you can do them all. In the end basically the same but more flexible.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So you’re saying you don’t like the choice in Linux? On a given distro, there’s usually one right way and maybe 2 other ways. Learn the right way for your setup and you’re good.

        If you’re using Network Manager, do it the Network Manager way. If you’re using Debian as a server, do it the Debian way (`/etc/network/interfaces). If you’re using SUSE, do it the SUSE way (YaST).

        If you don’t want to deal with it, use DHCP (usually default) and set the static lease on your router using the MAC address. That’s better anyway because you can change all of your static leases in one spot if you ever need to.

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  • thesystemisdown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Something like this? devtutorial.io/how-to-configure-static-ip-address…

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If I remember correctly that didnt work despite following the instructions.
      Either I did it wrong or something changed. Oh well. I will keep that for future reference and maybe it’ll work then.

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  • femtech@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    cyberciti.biz/…/add-configure-set-up-static-ip-ad…

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I believe I tried the exact raspberry forum entry but it didnt catch on even with reboots and whatever I tried.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        How you set it can vary depending on what you’re running. Linux is all about choice, and choice means multiple ways to do a thing. Places to look:

        • raspi-config - catchall CLI tool on Raspbian, not sure if it covers both of the following, but it’s a good option to start with
        • /etc/network/interfaces - the Debian way to do things
        • Network Manager - usually used for desktops, but can be used by servers; if the first two don’t work, try this

        But you could also have installed something different. If you post your OS and version and what you’re running on it, I can give better advice.

        That said, normal networking rules apply:

        • don’t set a static lease in your DHCP range, or you could get conflicts, which can look like it’s not working
        • consider using DHCP and setting the static lease through your router; use the MAC address and you’ll never need to mess with network settings on the Pi
        • if you set on the pi, make sure everything is correct (netmask, gateway, interface)

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      • femtech@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If you can I would set static IPs from the router though. That’s what I do as another device can still take the IP and cause issues.

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• Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve been on Win10 for years, never had a single problem with any update whatsoever.

  Still not subjecting myself to W11 though. As soon as Win10 support ends, I’ll make the switch.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Windows 10 had an update that notoriously broke a lot of games a while back and the only solution was to manually roll it back.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I recommend setting up whatever your alternative is a little before committing to ease the transition a bit.

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  • HeyJoe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s been the same on win 11. The only experience i have had was at work. I work closely with the updating team, and there have been a few times where things would break like printers, and we would revert the updates to stop it from going to everyone and uninstall. Sometimes, that meant a help desk guy had to go to the pc or remote in to do it manually. I’ve been there 19 years now, and it’s happened twice?

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    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve had my enterprise-distro linux machines updating by cron for 22 years. I had two glitches in those 20 years, too, just like you. But in addition to my two glitches - I had to bring in one unlisted dep for cobbler and also correct the smb.conf’s old format on another box - in 20 years, I also got

      • out-of-the-box
      • do-nothing patch runs
      • trivial back-out if I needed it

      And while I know your numbers are excellent, I simply haven’t had to DO ANYTHING since deploying some boxes. They patch, they bounce later on a weekend if they need it (‘needs-rebooting’ is centralized because ALL software installs are) and I can patch while under load because linux write-locks instead of read-locking. My effort is to check ‘some time later’ and ensure things are working in ways nagios doesn’t catch.

      Printer issues? Nah. Supply thing. App not working because java/perl/python/DLLs rug-pulled a dependency? Proper packages list hard dependencies, so that cobbler thing is a bug not an expectation. Network offline? nah. Reboots? timed at 3 minute downtime (1 min before systemd), or 7 minutes if I just updated 1gb of gitlab install because it starts like a manatee.

      It’s really a different world; and while I’ve teased the heck out of my windows peers, it’s a true statement.

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      • HeyJoe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Absolutely, I don’t disagree with your statement at all. I work heavily in systems administration and recently transitioned to networking. I deal with Linux systems, servers, vm’s, Azure daily, and for stability nothing beats Linux. I just tend to agree with the statement above commenting on how you always see these Windows articles, yet almost none actually affect you in the end.

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  • WindyRebel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Same boat here.

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