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yesman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Him and his libertarian friends fuck up left and right. Crashing startups and just getting more money for another. Etc

  Yet they hold the government to a standard of being perfect and high performing with no room for failure.

  And Trump is the biggest fuckup of all these guys.

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  • TK420@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I see you don’t understand testing things before they are safe for humans to be inside of. So by this logic, you are saying “blowing up rockets until it works” is also saying “crash testing cars is stupid.”

    <blank stare>

    If NASA was funded properly, we may not be leaning on one private company, whose owner is a nazi, to be paving our way forward for daily space activities. Can’t say things won’t blow up during testing, but at least it won’t be headed by that guy.

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    • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The issue isn’t the way of testing, but the two standards. If Musk blows up rockets in testing it’s a genius move with rapid iteration. If NASA does this it’s irresponsible handling of tax payer’s money on risky endeavors.

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      • TK420@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I stand by my comment. Things break, shit happens, this is why we test them.

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Blowing up rockets until it works is a far better approach than trying to get everything to work on the first try and ending up with a hugely overpriced white elephant.

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    • Traister101@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Sure, if it was cheaper than just doing it correctly the first time which it’s not

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      • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        How do you do something “correctly” when nobody knows what that is? If your main priority is to do it “correctly” you will never develop anything fundamentally new.

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• x00z@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You can’t use “literally” and “paraphrasing” like that.

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  • flyingjake@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Thank you, my pedantic friend. (I say this because I’m often the one making the comment and getting the eyerolls)

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    • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Normally I don’t point it out. But this one was just too much.

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      • MechanicalJester@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        You just literally said (interpretive paraphrasing), “I like big butts and I cannot lie”

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You can’t use “literally” and

    … be over 14

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    • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s literally not true.

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• phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I think it’s also worth noting that Elon Musk is a scammer. Every other word out of his mouth is likely a lie. He’s been claiming to already have technologies available for his Tesla cars, his SpaceX rockets, etc, all ready to go and… it never happened. Tesla full self driving? The Tesla taxis? SpaceX on Mars? The Tesla laughably stupid robots? Even those were faked.

  Claims after claims for decades and literally no results

  The guy is a full on bait and switch yet everyone seems to lap up everything this scammer says.

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• Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Also, normally the cost savings should go to the client, not into some billionaires bank account.

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• rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  is pure tech-bro-libertarianism

  Tech bros are usually not libertarian. Being excited about a failed solution to only one of libertarian problems (blockchain) doesn’t make one libertarian, too.

  And like all libertarians, he’s stuck in the neoliberal mindset of less regulation (don’t scrutinize) and more efficiency (let me be cheap)

  That’s not libertarianism, more like Ayn Rand and her inverse bolshevism with good mighty benevolent industrial aristocracy and bad stupid mischievous everyone else. She even reads like one of Valentin Pikul’s “historical novels”, only with inverted good and bad guys. That ideology is radically different from libertarianism, instead of freedom, voluntarism, non-aggression and such, resulting in a free society with free contracts, Ayn Rand says that some people are better than the others and thus freedom, voluntarism, non-aggression etc are measures by relative value of the offender and the victim. It’s jungle law.

  Anyway, it’s not “neoliberal” either, anti-monopoly regulations are part of the “ideal” free market model. And I think Elon likes patents and trademarks, which are not necessarily there (and in libertarianism are not a thing).

  His transparent reasoning is that if he’s allowed to cut corners, he’ll save money today and consequences can be dealt with when they arise.

  You might have seen the recent news about Tesla sales falling. Maybe it took so long because of accumulated trust into regulators not allowing car makers to make dangerous crap. So - then maybe in other reality, where Elon came to an industry already allowed to cut corners, he’d go bankrupt by now because of consumers understanding who he is.

  Life is complex, I’m not saying he’s right, just that.

  He’s following the software model of release a minimally viable product and patch it later. Only instead of user frustration at being beta testers, you fucking die maybe.

  The way software industry works, a lot of people have died due to its failures. One has to count people who’ve committed suicide due to events cause by some bug or even UX problem, people who failed to communicate something in time, thus possibly saving someone, people who disclosed what they shouldn’t have, thus possibly causing a criminal death, medical errors due to software problems, wars, catastrophes.

  But yes, it’s already allowed to do that and Elon wants such wonders in other industries, so that we’d have a bit of natural selection in our daily lives. Dystopian cyberpunk is called dystopian because it’s not utopian, but being a billionaire, I guess, one would dream of living in such instead of utopian version of boring past.

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• pyre@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  oh god that quote. he’s so lame and fucking stupid.

  I’m sure corner cutting is a concern but also he’s so insecure he probably read things about Steve Jobs or something, and tried to ape him. I remember something about Jobs supposedly telling employees to reduce steps in some processes or whatever. this idiot doesn’t understand anything so he thinks asking for fewer bolts is the same thing.

  why can’t we do it in two? cause that’s how you secure things you fucking dumbass. your proud fascination for “fewer bolts” is why your hypercuck tried to kill a driver.

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• SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  He is like a child who is still rebelling against his parents who made him go to bed early too many times.

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• barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  An MVP should not be a beta version, but fully functional and bug-free. The idea is to reduce scope to not necessarily even release it (though that’s possible) but to have a solid foundation onto which to duct-tape bells and whistles.

  The MVP of a car doesn’t have heated seats, heck the seats might not even be adjustable without a wrench, but it’s absolutely going to drive and drive well and be crash-safe. Because if it doesn’t it’s nowhere close to being a viable car, go back and fix that before spending time on those seats.

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• GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  There’s nothing inherently wrong with a simplification mindset. Automotive manufacturers certainly do like to overcomplicate things. Unfortunately people like him only care about costs and not quality.

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