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• cows_are_underrated@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Raw milk gets bad after about 3-4 days, even with constant cooling. This period is way to short to sell it at grocerie stores in any big scale.

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  • redisdead@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Are you american?

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    • cows_are_underrated@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bo and it is in no way relevant. Since it seems like you think that what I say is wrong, I know this, because I came from a farm.

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      • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        because I came from a farm

        I know what you mean but this amuses me immensely.

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      • redisdead@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It is relevant. The quality of the food chain and regulations where you live play a huge role in that particular society’s feel about raw products.

        You’d be surprised to find that in some countries people eat raw ground pork as a normal thing and nobody dies.

        I’d like to know which farm you worked in because the fact you think so poorly about the food that comes out of it means I absolutely need to avoid anything you guys make.

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      • robocall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        username checks out

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• riodoro1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We do, but we also have pasteurization.

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  • redisdead@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s like saying ‘yes we have foie gras but we also have store brand meat product.’

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    • riodoro1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Mmm gourmet bacteria and viruses.

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      • redisdead@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh no, germs. You should go ahead and inject yourself with UV bleach.

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      • stringere@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If they’re not from the USA they’re just sparkling pathogens.

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• problematicPanther@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You see, in America, the milk cattle live in terrible conditions. Mastitis is common. In the US, you really have to pasteurize the milk to kill all the bacteria and viruses that end up in the milk because of the conditions they live in.

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  • cows_are_underrated@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can’t say anything about the general health and living conditions of the US cattle, but taking your word for granted its devinetively advised. If the cows are kept under good conditions and a good hygiene is practised usually germs in raw milk aren’t that much of a problem.

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    • ZeffSyde@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There is a video I will not point you to, because a hundred vegans probably have already, that show how sad and disgusting factory farming in the US is. I wouldn’t drink anything that came out of one of those depressing animal factories unless it had been processed to hell and back.

      There are better options on the market, but the average American is going to pay a buck or two less for a gallon from the milk factory. Same thing with eggs, meat.

      Conscious food choices are a luxury, here.

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    • Maeve@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They’re forced to stand in their own squalor without stalls being mucked out. It’s cruel and disgusting.

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• FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Okay, whether or not raw milk is generally safe, why buy it when there’s an alternative that removes the pathogens?

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  • UristMcHolland@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    THe PaThOGeNs aRe gOoD fOr yOU!!!

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  • bitchkat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    These people voted for trump. Critical thinking isn’t in their repertoire.

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  • Saleh@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because raw milk contains everything, including all the fat and all the vitamins.

    Processed milk usually is first separated between fat and liquid and then the fat is readded. Also the pasteurization destroys some of the vitamins.

    More importantly though it just tastes different.

    Finally if you want to make yogurt or cream cheese, you want to work of raw milk because it contains the fermenting bacteria, but that is more of a niche application.

    Pasteurization by default does not remove all bacteria and probably also not all viruses.

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    • Omgpwnies@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Finally if you want to make yogurt or cream cheese, you want to work of raw milk because it contains the fermenting bacteria, but that is more of a niche application.

      If you’re going to make anything from milk that requires bacterial cultures and the conditions under which they will grow, you absolutely do not want whatever random cultures that are in a raw product. You start clean and add the cultures you want to propagate. Source: ferments things at home

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why are you getting your vitamins from milk?

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      • redisdead@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Most people get their vitamins from their food, not from dietary supplements.

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      • Saleh@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I was just giving reason, that exist to prefer raw milk. I only ever drank raw milk when spending vacations on a farm and i didn’t buy cow milk since a couple of years.

        Still i would like to say that i don’t think raw milk is a problematic vector for pandemics to spread. Chance is people will get the shits if hygiene is bad, but i doubt a viral pandemic to spread because of raw milk. More likely would be farm workers getting an infection over the air and then spreading it to other humans.

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