Comment on It's pretty cruel, particularly for non-native English speakers, that 'lose' and 'loose' seemingly switched spellings, meanings and pronunciations with each other when no one was looking

• corvi@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Those still aren’t pronounced the same. The th in clothes isn’t silent.

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  • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Huh? I have lived in every corner and the middle of the United States and I have never heard anyone pronounce the TH in clothes no matter the accent. It always sounds like close as in to close the door.

    Unless you are thinking of cloths, as in a pile of wash cloths.

    English kinda sucks sometimes.

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    • tyler@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m American and I’ve never heard a single person ever pronounce it “close”. Listen closely and you’ll hear that the word sounds longer. That’s the pronunciation. It’s not a hard “thuh”. It’s a soft “ths”. Say the word “cloths” but use a long “o” sound rather than “awh”.

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    • emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is just wrong. Im canadian but think about how you would pronounce the word ‘clothe’ as in 'he can barely clothe himself" and then add an s sound. Although it is more of a ‘z’ sound abd can blend with the ‘th’ a little bit, the ‘th’ is definitely pronounced clo-th-z.

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not sure where you’re from, but the th is indeed silent in my area regarding the word ‘clothes’. I’ve never heard it pronounced any different than ‘close’.

    Now if it’s said as ‘clothing’, the th is indeed pronounced. But not for ‘clothes’. And I’ve worked at a clothing store before.

    You might be thinking of the word ‘cloths’, which indeed does pronounce the th.

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    • BenM2023@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not sure where you’re from, but the th is indeed silent in my area regarding the word ‘clothes’. I’ve never heard it pronounced any different than ‘close’.

      I’m not sure where you’re from, the th in is always pronounced in my area regarding the word ‘clothes’. I’ve never heard it pronounced the same as ‘close’

      I will say that people got called out for pronouncing it the same as the spice ‘cloves’.

      FWIW My area = rural southern UK.

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      • ODuffer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah absolutely not silent. Unless perhaps you’re a cockney.

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      • Asidonhopo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m in the US and I pronounce it, I think a lot of people do? Maybe I just know a lot of snobs and “regular” Americans mush the word together but I don’t think so

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      • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh well that’s easy then, it’s because you guys speak British, not English!

        Kidding aside, I lived in East Anglia for a few years as a kid and I don’t remember the British kids saying it that way either, but that was a really long time ago and my memory ain’t what it used to be! I think. I can’t remember how it used to be actually.

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      • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You seem like the sort of person that would pronounce the word often with a hard T, yet still pronounce the letter A as if it was an O.

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    • db2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So on laundry day you put away your clo_s_ing? The rest of us have clo_th_ing.

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  • 0ops@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I pronounce the th sometimes, but not always, depends how fast I’m talking

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• Eiri@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Close isn’t always pronounced the same?!

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  • teft@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sit close to me vs close the door

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    • Eiri@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ooh wow you’re right.

      Close to me is “closs”

      Close the door is “cloz”

      I never noticed

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      • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Your wright!

        And I’m rong.

        Why is English so weird?

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      • teft@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ve had to train my ear because I learned to speak spanish so I notice these things with my friends who are learning english.

        The one that broke my mind the other day is that the D in drink is pronounced like a J. My friend was practicing his D sounds and came up with that out of the blue.

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• darkdemize@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Bingo.

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