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I like Jason but he completely missed the boat on this one.

The active migration away from social media networks that are owned, controlled by, and distorted by the richest men and most powerful companies in the world to a decentralized platform that is not owned and controlled by billionaires is one of the more hopeful things to happen in what has largely been a bleak year for the human internet as AI slop infects everything and billionaires put their thumbs on the scale of what we see on social media.

He says this and yet jumps to Bluesky, a platform created by Jack Dorsey and now owned and managed by a crypto bro? You don’t need powers of prophecy to see where Bluesky is headed.

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avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Honestly I don’t know what’s up with the mass delusion about Bluesky being oligarch-free. It’s understandable that most don’t know or haven’t looked into it, but then some folks that should know better are displaying the same ignorance.

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- OceanSoap@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  People going over don’t care who owns it, they just want to use a platform that regularly censors thoughts they disagree with. That’s it.
  
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  - Stefaan@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    They want a platform where THEY can censor. No matter how much I block Leon M. on twitter, I keep seeing his posts
    
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zante@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
It’s very telling that all across lemmy this is being celebrated. Looks like most people completely missed the point.

I don’t myself like mastodon very much, but if you came to lemmy to stick it to the man it’s a bit silly to cheer on the next man, which is what bluesky is.

Twitter will remain a place for the Right and nut job grifters , probably absorb truth social and the others. bluesky will become the place for liberals and centrists who jerk each other off because they have a degree and gay friends and think they are enlightened.

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- Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  People aren’t going to be convinced of social/communism overnight.
  
  I celebrate the move to BlueSky as positive in that they are no longer propping up an apartheid tech bro who’s now running a meme branch of US Government, and also because many of them are doing the thing they were scared to do before: leave. They now know how that feels and what it will be like rebuilding friend groups and such.
  
  It’s not the anti-corpo step many are deluding themselves to believe it is, but getting out of the muck and learning how to take the step to change something are both things I see as positives that can be guided to better things in the future.
  
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  - golli@lemm.ee ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    For me the bigger value is not in the quality difference between the two platforms. And don’t get me wrong, i agree that BlueSky is a lot better than Elon’s Twitter, but not as good as a decentralised Fediverse Platform.
    
    The real positive is in the act of migration itself, because it shows that is still a possibility. So hopefully it proves sustainable.
    
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  - sibachian@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    musk could just buy it. jack already sold twitter to him, and while musk might have comprehended how shitty a deal it was (i mean he tried to back out of the contract and all); he doesn’t seem like the guy who would be smart enough to avoid cost sunk fallacy and might want to buy bluesky to keep digging that hole. and jack wouldn’t turn him down for a bid on bluesky for the same reason he didn’t turn him down before - money. heck, if the rightwing shittards were ready to really destroy the “liberal web” they’d make sure musk could buy and convert bluesky too. nowhere for “liberals” to run after that, because they already had the option for mastodon and choose fucking bluesky like months to a flame.
    
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    Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    musk could just buy it. jack already sold twitter to him,
    
    Yeah, certainly, or some other billionaire. I think it goes without saying that most of us here understand the flaws with centralized services.
    
    I’m not saying it’s the best choice ever, but I’m hopeful that the choice to leave Xitter might do positive things to people’s mentality when BlueSky almost certainly repeats history. It’s not likely to happen right away, as even an offer to buy would take time to approve, so for now, I’m taking it as a net positive.
    
    The Fediverse will continue to grow and change in the meantime, and we’ll all still be here to help them migrate to better things in the future.
    
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    hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    musk could just buy it. jack already sold twitter to him, and while musk might have comprehended how shitty a deal it was (i mean he tried to back out of the contract and all); he doesn’t seem like the guy who would be smart enough to avoid cost sunk fallacy and might want to buy bluesky to keep digging that hole. and jack wouldn’t turn him down for a bid on bluesky for the same reason he didn’t turn him down before - money.
    
    That’s actually not as easy with Bluesky. It’s decentralized enough that buying it doesn’t help control it that well. The previous owners or someone else could easily go set up another shop and compete using the same network and protocol.
    
    Do I wish Mastodon were coming out on top? Sure. But Bluesky is still a significant improvement.
    
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- Kichae@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Most people came to Lemmy becaise they felt personally agreived by the Reddit API issue. They don’t give a shit about what’s good for the Internet, or society.
  
  They’re here out of protest, and would happily give their all to the next Billionaire that makes them feel smarter than the average bear.
  
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- kamenlady@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Your rant is very much appreciated.
  
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- Smc87@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Small steps
  
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SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

He says this and yet jumps to Bluesky, a platform created by Jack Dorsey and now owned and managed by a crypto bro?

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Zak@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Whether it soon becomes possible to self host an AppView, the one remaining centralized component will tell us a lot about where it’s headed.

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- aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  There are already smaller appviews that use the existing hosting/authentication infra. Nothing with any real scale but for example there is a barebones reddit/hackernews equivalent frontpage.fyi
  
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  - Zak@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    That’s interesting. This post had suggested it isn’t yet possible to host an AppView. It seems the reality is more complex.
    
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    aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    That post refers to hosting an appview that does all the same things as the official one, which involves a ton of storage and bandwidth and processing (for recommendations, notifications, and all the other moving parts), and is closed source to boot.
    
    Frontpage.fyi is a lot cheaper simply because its used by like 50 people tops.
    
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can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
At least maybe some more regular people will learn about decentralization (and alternative ways there) from this mass adoption?

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