Comment on Inside the U.S. Government-Bought Tool That Can Track Phones at Abortion Clinics

Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Or, you know, let the gov work for you, not against you, & exist people to get jailed if they thank you.

  It’s a matter of perspective what the minimum standard should be.

  Especially when a personal device like a phone is basically necessary for a normal life and even public services.

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• MattMatt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Meanwhile when I turn off Bluetooth on my iPhone it says “for the next y hours” and there’s no option to turn it off permanently.

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  • trolololol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Maybe you need arch btw

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  • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    and there’s no option to turn it off permanently.

    Did you actually try looking this up. Turn it off in settings and it’s off forever until you turn it back on.

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  • DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Don’t buy Apple?

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Image

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• WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Wouldn’t just keeping your phone in a metal box prevent it from communicating with anything? Keep your phone in a metal box and only take it out when you need it. Only take it out in a location that isn’t sensitive. Or hell, just make a little sleeve out of aluminum foil. Literally just wrapping your phone in aluminum foil should prevent it from connecting to anything. A tinfoil hat won’t serve as an effective Faraday cage for your brain, but fully wrapping your phone in aluminum foil should do the job. Even better, as it’s a phone, such a foil sleeve should be quite testable. Build it, put your phone in it, and try texting and calling it. If surrounded fully by a conductive material, the phone should be completely incapable of sending or receiving signals.

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  • RaoulDook@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A Faraday cage is supposed to be grounded, so aluminum foil isn’t the same thing. Maybe you could turn the phone off, wrap it in foil, and then place it upon a conductive metal surface that is grounded, such as a 240v kitchen appliance

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  • Hazor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You could also just turn it off.

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    • WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You sure it’s still not phoning home? How do you know “off” is really “off” anymore with a modern phone? It’s not like an old flip phone that you can just pop the battery out.

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      • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I absolutely do not trust that an “off” phone is actually off, unless the battery is removed (assuming it can be).

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      • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes. When your phone is off, it is off.

        If you’re paranoid you can buy a faraday bag.

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• captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Or we could get rights protecting us from this. Especially considering that that’s a reasonable interpretation of the fourth amendment and the ninth amendment.

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  • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We already have rights protecting us from this. They aren’t being enforced.

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• moseschrute@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There has to be some way that we could have created the architecture to do everything a phone does without letting a user be triangulated easily.

  I know there is no incentive to do that, but it amazes me how far ahead the security of the web is compared to phone tech.

  Like maybe if phones could authenticate without broadcasting a unique identifier. And maybe they could open a vpn style encrypted tunnel and perform their auth over that tunnel.

  Idk, I know nothing about phones, but it has to be possible.

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  • oyenyaaow@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    there’s the ole www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/

    kitschy name, but when it was established it was not even planning anything like what it is doing now.

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• wrekone@lemmyf.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If you don’t want to be tracked illegally, don’t bring your phone.

  If you don’t want any to be tracked legally, write/call/tweet/visit your representatives.

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Also just write your Supreme Court and ask them how this isn’t a flagrant violation of the intent of the fourth amendment. Seriously the founding fathers would be asking what the fuck about this. They weren’t good people but they would’ve been privacy nuts.

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    • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The US Supreme Court has has an antagonistic relationship to the forth amd fifth amendments to the Constitution of the United States since before I was a kid in the 1970s since they often interfered with efforts to round up nonwhites. But after the 9/11 attacks and the PATRIOT ACT, SCOTUS has been shredding both amendments with carve-out exceptions.

      Then Law Enforcement uses tech without revealing it in court, often lying ( parallel reconstruction ) to conceal questionable use, and the courts give them the benefit of the doubt.

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    • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      if you’re talking about the supreme court, they’re long past pretending they give the slightest fuck about the bill of rights.

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      • winterayars@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “The fourth amendment means what we say it means” – SCOTUS, probably.

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      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Oh absolutely but it annoys them when they’re called out about it

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