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Comment on After a year of operation, Switzerland's government closes its Mastodon instance
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Mastodon use in on a decline? What a shame. I personally dislike the format but then again I barely used Twitter.
Thann@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It has had a huge increase according to the statistics. I wonder where they are getting their numbers from.
cabbage@piefed.social 2 days ago
FediDB reports that the Mastodon user count is on the decline the last year, from more than. 1.2 million to 820k thousand. The number seems to maybe stabilize a little, but it appears as a slow decline when studying the last year.
Then again, this is following from a huge bump of new users with the twitter exodus. It's natural that not all will stick around, so a decline in active user now is not so surprising. It does indicate a lack of ability to move the momentum, but it's an open source project with very limited funding, not a venture capital startup. It's not here for explosive growth.
Furthermore, the number of Mastodon users is not a perfect measure. If it's matched by a huge number of users on gotosocial, it wouldn't really matter. The Swiss should maybe have waited for Threads to federate both ways before deciding to leave on account of limited interactions.
Anyway, they're not entirely wrong to say Mastodon is on the decline. But they're not entirely right either.
mke@programming.dev 2 days ago
Just for the record, I know little about gotosocial, but I’ve looked into Misskey a fair bit and I think it’s irrelevant here.
FediDB data on active users seems off (a low ~12k MAU), but even if the real number is much greater, most are on the flagship instance (misskey.io) which has multiple CSAM censures on fediseer.
Put another way, it’s almost counterproductive to include Misskey in these topics because simply federating with its biggest instance could be a liability for most 1st world western instances.
I doubt the Swiss government would get much out of Misskey.
cabbage@piefed.social 2 days ago
I just mentioned them because they're microblog sites, so in theory they do the exact same thing as Mastodon. The number of Mastodon users doesn't matter; the number of people on Fediverse platforms compatible with Mastodon matters.
So Lemmy users are not very helpful, but Mbin users maybe more so. Or Friendica.
The point is just that the number of Mastodon users is, in theory, irrelevant, as you don't just communicate with Mastodon users. Maybe misskey was a bad example, I don't know anything about it.
Carighan@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah it’s no wonder as Bluesky seems to work better as an alternative.
Wiz@midwest.social 2 days ago
Bluesky seems to work better as an alternative.
Until they run out of VC money.
Then the enshittification happens, to pay the bills.
Carighan@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah, not unlikely. Can’t truly know ahead of time of course, but it feels like that would eventually happen. I wish governments in particular had jumped harder onto Mastodon, slowly moving attention there.
But it’s probably also difficult to justify, because from their perspective it’s just one “someone else’s solution” vs another. They’d have to first make their own twitter like fediverse software I bet.
cabbage@piefed.social 2 days ago
The EU at least is still sticking around, which is cool.
I have to say I'm a believer in slow growth here. It wouldn't be good if one Mastodon server completely dominated; neither would it be good if Mastodon as a software was the only viable alternative. Right now we're in a great spot where a bunch of different solutions are being developed.
I think this development is healthy, and it be depends on slower more organic growth. And it might not be a linear process, but eventually I believe activitypub integration will be as obvious as having an RSS feed. Doesn't matter much if it takes a while to get there.
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Better in what way? Format wise? Does it have better apps?
Carighan@lemmy.world 2 days ago
No I mean it seems to work better as an alternative. Quite a few smaller companies, content creators and so on I want to see enws from are on there, so it somehow seems to work better for them. 🤷♀️
iorale@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Better content.
Mastodon is full of keyboard activism and news. Finding content for/from normies is not that easy and is usually ignored (0 retoots or so).
Bluesky has normie content along news and is still pretty left-leaning, a couple of artists/creators have an account there.
Finding porn/hentai is also easier than in mastodon (and you don’t have to check every detail of the servers to know if it’s allowed).Tl;dr: Bluesky requires no mental effort to create an account and has normie content.
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Bluesky is federated right? You will still have to check what the host allows. I get the impression the only reason there are more normies is because of the celebrity of Jack Dorsey.
SuperFola@programming.dev 2 days ago
From what I saw it was actually rising. A lot of Brazilian signed up when X was banned in their country and all the indicators are going up it seems. I don’t know where they got their numbers, to me it feels like they needed an excuse to cut costs.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I saw mastodon had a slight bump when that happened, but 90% of them went to bluesky. They got like 3 3 million users in 2 days. Mastodon got like …a few thousand?
ademir@lemmy.eco.br 2 days ago
a few hundreds at most I would say.