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flop_leash_973@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• UniversalMonk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Same reasons that ad tiers are gaining a foothold in streaming services like Netflix. The consumer has shown they are fine with it.

  Yep, I remember when Netlfix first put it out there that they would start with the ads, and everyone on reddit was like, “Canceling my Netflix right now!!”

  Netflix is doing just fine without the 5 redditors who actually did cancel it. lmao

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  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    the problem is so many people are willing to say they’ll take a stand.

    but when the time comes, the mindnumbingly overwhelming majority suck it up, because they must have their precious shiny and can not suffer even the mildest of inconvenience.

    Its my biggest gripe in gaming, but its a enormous gripe just in general, with everything. because it doesnt matter if you are talking about appliances, creative software, video games, streaming services, stores, etc.

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    • D_Air1@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      To summarize what I was telling another person. The number of people who care are far outnumbered by the number of people who don’t. It doesn’t matter if you or I or all 10,000 (just a random number for the sake of argument) of the people subscribed to a sub like this were to cancel when r/justworks or r/normie (made up subreddits for the sake of argument) has 100,000,000 who don’t give a damn about computers, privacy, or anything else beyond the service working or not.

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      • setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I agree. Tech communities have a habit of drastically over estimating how much everyone else cares about the details of tech.

        Even something as simple as PC gaming scares off a lot of people because of the perception that you need to be some kind of tech wizard in order to cobble everything together to make a game run. Actual cobbling together of software to pirate (no matter how simple it seems to people in the know) is just a bunch of technobabble.

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    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      this is the primary reason i advocate for more piracy, and even legal protections for piracy, in some capacity.

      It’s one of the few spaces i consider to be a “truly free market” when it comes to economics.

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      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I’m more and more inclined towards the idea of piracy myself.

        I don’t actively do it actively since I dont really know where to begin, and things I have found have been to sketch for me, or requiring memberships or even payments to join.

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    • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      🏴‍☠️ 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

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  • D_Air1@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I know you weren’t using the number 5 as a hard example, but a thing that people still don’t seem to realize is that the people in threads like this are the people that actually care. Even if the few thousand redditors who subscribe to a subreddit where they discussed that topic were to all (and I mean 100% of them) cancel there subscriptions. That is still only a drop in the bucket for Netflix. Losing a few thousand subscribers is still nothing if they made more money with the addition of ads.

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    • setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It is interesting to me that the chorus always talking about “switching” to piracy after every incident is also intimately familiar with piracy already. Almost as if it’s just people who already pirate talking to each other about how hard they are going to pirate. Meanwhile general audiences don’t care.

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      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Almost as if it’s just people who already pirate talking to each other about how hard they are going to pirate. Meanwhile general audiences don’t care.

        this isn’t quite true, we have seen an uptick in piracy over the last few years from the streaming service hyper diversion thats been happening for some time now.

        It’s probably not a lot of people, but it is still happening.

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    • glitchdx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      these are also the people who would pay more for quality service if it was available.

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    • dan@upvote.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Losing a few thousand subscribers is still nothing if they made more money with the addition of ads.

      It’s the same with increasing the price of a service. Usually, the extra revenue from the price increase is far greater than the revenue loss from people that unsubscribe.

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  • pooperNickel@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    “Socialist Chaos Trow” lol

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• Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Time to pirate YT content and upload to usenet to be automatically downloaded using sonarr

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  • Gutless2615@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yes but literally throwing together a script to download the days subscription videos to a jellyfin media drive would be stupidly simple.

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    • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Sure, but not as convenient 🤷🏻

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    • speeding_slug@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It already exists, even as a Docker. Not as simple as an *arr style interface, but it works great.

      (ytdl-sub)[github.com/jmbannon/ytdl-sub]

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      • Gutless2615@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Well you know what they say “Great minds think quicker than mine and probably have already had that thought.”

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    • irreticent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      “Stupidly simple” might be overselling it when it comes to the masses adopting it. Not everyone is adept at “throwing together a script.”

      That being said, I’m all for helping the masses adapt.

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      • Gutless2615@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        “Give me a Python script using yt-dlp that I can run on a cronjob that will download the videos from any of my subscribed channels since the last time the script was run”

        You can use the following Python script to download videos from your subscribed channels since the last run. This script uses yt-dlp and stores the last download timestamp to track new videos.

        First, ensure you have yt-dlp installed:

        pip install yt-dlp
        

        Then, create a script called download_videos.py:

        import os
        import json
        import subprocess
        from datetime import datetime
        
        # Configuration
        last_run_file = 'last_run.json'
        download_directory = 'downloads'
        
        # Ensure the download directory exists
        os.makedirs(download_directory, exist_ok=True)
        
        # Load the last run time
        if os.path.exists(last_run_file):
            with open(last_run_file, 'r') as f:
                last_run = json.load(f)['last_run']
        else:
            last_run = datetime.now().isoformat()
        
        # Update the last run time to now
        current_run = datetime.now().isoformat()
        
        # Command to get videos from subscribed channels since the last run
        command = [
            'yt-dlp',
            '--download-archive', 'archive.txt',
            '--output', f'{download_directory}/%(title)s.%(ext)s',
            '--date-after', last_run,
            '--no-post-overwrites',
            '--merge-output-format', 'mp4',
            'https://www.youtube.com/channel/CHANNEL_ID',  # Replace with your channel URL
        ]
        
        # Run the command
        subprocess.run(command)
        
        # Save the current run time
        with open(last_run_file, 'w') as f:
            json.dump({'last_run': current_run}, f)
        
        print("Download complete. Next run will check for videos since:", current_run)
        

        Setting Up the Cron Job

        1. Make the script executable:

           chmod +x download_videos.py
           

        2. Open your crontab:

           crontab -e
           

        3. Add a line to run the script at your desired interval (e.g., daily at 2 AM):

           0 2 * * * /path/to/python /path/to/download_videos.py
           

        Notes

        • Replace CHANNEL_ID in the script with your actual channel IDs or use a playlist URL if preferred.
        • The archive.txt file keeps track of already downloaded videos to avoid duplicates.
        • Adjust the paths to Python and your script as needed.

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  • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Honestly, it would probably be easier to just build a *arr program specifically for downloading YouTube videos directly. Tie it into the rest of the *arr suite, with naming conventions for Plex/Jellyfin.

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    • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I would install that, but I fear scraping youtube will be a arms race, soon, similar to other streaming services

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• ironsoap@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  While I agree, I have a hard time seeing how people will stop using it until the field changes. Maybe in 10 years it will the the MySpace of the sitcom era, but right now it’s still growing. That growth is giving it carte blanche to manipulate the users as it sees fit. Regulation might impact it, but it’s still a bit of a Goliath.

  • Compared to 2023, YouTube’s user base has grown by 20 million this year, representing a 0.74% increase. From Global media insights

  Also the active user base is 2.7 billion people in 2024 from the same source above.

  The alternatives are out there, but just not in the same league.

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  • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Regulation might impact it

    I’m having a hard time seeing any bill get passed that supports the rights of users to watch videos without the ads that support the creators and the platform that they’re watching.

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    • ironsoap@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I don’t think this requires an act of congress. I think you might see more consumer advocation on the part of FTC (although it doesn’t currently regulate online broadcast), or potentially the CFPB.

      Admittedly it’s more likely to see the EU do some regulations, but it all depends on the election.

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      • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I think it needs regulation, the whole streaming industry needs to be regulated! It can’t be that the competition is made using exclusive content and you have to live with privacy infringement tech to consume cultural art legally.

        In my opinion, in a capitalist system, the market competition should be about delivering the content the best way, not about what content they deliver.

        Right now, they can made the delivery as shitty as they want, because what takes them apart from competition is the exclusive content, not the tech.

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    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      regulations for ad quality, and privacy, are almost certainly what they mean by that.

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    • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m having a hard time seeing any bill get passed that supports the rights of users to watch videos without the ads that support the creators and the platform that they’re watching.

      We should reach a compromise of having skippable ads in the beginning only, for example. In other pages it could be that ads cannot be bigger than 10% of the content being delivered on the page. It’s not always all or nothing, good regulation listens to both sides and reaches a compromise in the middle, but good regulation is getting harder and harder to come by.

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• AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I see we’re pretending the government doesn’t have regulatory power today

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