Submitted 6 months ago by alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com to risa@startrek.website
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So I’m watching TOS for the first time… (have alreay watched all show from TNG to DISC quite a while ago and yes, my fav is DS9 followed by TNG) and have just started “The Enemy Within”
Idk why but my shitpost-ridden brain instantly went “wait… d-did they make Kirk hot?”
that’s it, that’s the post. It’s mostly a /hj (I hope (?))
They were going for gasps.
... because they had to make him distinguishable from normal Kirk but hadn't yet settled on the convention of just giving him a goatee?
Could also have been to make the difference more subtle, since they’re different parts of the same person, rather than being two separate people like the goatee counterparts are.
I haven’t seen that episode, but now forever in my mind Evil Kirk is redeemed by the unstoppable power of doggy love. “I hate everything! Except maybe this dog. Actually, this dog rocks…do I really hate everything?”
Also this doggo is absolutely adorable in that costume
The wrong two of those actors are dead. ☹️
It should have been Shatner, twice.
Gives him dark eyes, as opposed to the bright/spotlit eyes on good Kirk? So you can immediately tell there’s a difference between the two.
Idk why but my shitpost-ridden brain instantly went “wait… d-did they make Kirk hot?”
Depending on your taste/sexuality, they arguably do that most of the time. The man seems to have shirts made of tissue paper.
Eye shadow makes you more attractive on, it’s just a fact.
Btw that sexual assault scene is even more fucked up when you learn that Grace Lee Whitney was sexually assaulted by an unnamed executive associated with the series…
Probably the same reason that they make vampires sexy - the allure of the forbidden. Mr. Evil Kirk is the poisoned fruit.
You gotta pay the troll toll
A large part of how we read emotions in other people is by looking at subtleties in their eyes. How open or closed, changes in shape that give away if they’re telling the truth, etc.
In media, they often use dark makeup around the eyes, a shadow, or something like dark sunglasses as shorthand to show that a character is mysterious and hard to read, therefore possibly dangerous.
So you know he’s evil without a goatee.
I’m imagining William Shatner stumbling on this thread and having a ~~good chuckle ~~ fit of villanous laughter.
He’s going for gasps
…cause he’s F-A-B-U-LOUS!
sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 6 months ago
Queercoding villains to make them seem dangerous and deviant to the people of the time (and those that are still stuck in that time). Admittedly, the people making that decision probably weren’t conscious of that being why they thought eyeliner made him look villainous.
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
For me it’s a simple makeup effect to show unmitigated sleep loss from the intrusive voices.
yeather@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
It’s also a subtle change that you recognize but don’t really see, more feel.
T156@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It also makes him stand out more. Where regular Kirk has a spotlight on his eyes (like Morticia Addams), Evil Kirk has darkened eyes instead.
Haus@kbin.social 6 months ago
Is Ming the Merciless an example of this?
Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
No but Ming the Fabulous is.
alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Makes sense, tho as you said I wouldn’t suggest bad intentions/faith of anyone in the team behind Star Trek (except fucking Berman, obsly), since I see it as a deeply progressive (not in the lib way) show
jlow@beehaw.org 6 months ago
Yeah, that what I was thinking as well.