Artist behind Mona’s ladies-only lounge ‘absolutely delighted’ man is suing for gender discrimination

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• Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Personally, I’m more interested in this from a legal perspective than I am from a moral one. I don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other, morally, but I’m fascinated to see if the case gets up, what other implications it could have.

  But also:

  The opportunity to extend the performance aspect of Ladies Lounge was embraced by the artist and 25 female supporters, who entered Tuesday’s tribunal hearing wearing a uniform of navy business attire. Throughout the day’s proceedings, they engaged in discreet synchronised choreographed movements, including leg crossing, leaning forward together and peering over the top of their spectacles. Apart from the gentle swish of 25 pairs of nylon clad legs crossing in unison, the support party remained silent. When the proceedings concluded, the troupe exited the tribunal to the Robert Palmer song Simply Irresistible.

  Sublime.

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  • abhibeckert@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The legal aspect is crystal clear. I bet the court will be angry that it even went to court at all.

    The purpose of a judge is to settle disagreements. When both sides of a court case agree with the facts, then there is nothing to judge and it should not go to court at all. It should be settled out of court.

    Good chance the defence will be forced to pay legal fees for both sides of the case - on top of damages.

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    • MetaSynapse@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sounds like someone didn't read the full article:

      Mona’s legal team will be relying on the tribunal’s interpretation of section 26 of Tasmania’s Anti-Discrimination Act, under which a person is permitted to discriminate against another person in a situation designed to promote equal opportunity for a group of people who are disadvantaged or have a special need because of a prescribed attribute – in this case gender.

      It is under clauses like this in most of Australia’s anti-discrimination legislation that organisations such as male-only clubs and women-only gyms are able to operate.

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    • Neato@ttrpg.network ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You clearly didn’t read the article. A very typical, privileged response.

      Although, you are experiencing the Ladies Lounge in the way it was intended.

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    • SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Are you a legal expert? Is the fact that this is “art” not a more complex legal issue?

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    • DontMakeMoreBabies@kbin.earth ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Plus this sort of bullshit clogs up dockets and takes time away from cases that actually need judicial intervention.

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    • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Pretty sure you don’t get paid time off work for a civil case you chose to bring.

      Unless you mean using annual leave, in which case your boss can’t get fucked, it’s none of their business what you use it for.

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  • useless_modern_god@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Chefs kiss🤌💅

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  • zarcher@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Respect for the choreographed movements during the tribunal.

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  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do you not have men’s clubs in Australia like Masons, Elks, Eagles, Moose, etc.?

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    • Nath@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We have clubs that are open to men only, as well as clubs open to women only.

      I’m not sure whether this person is genuinely unaware of this, or whether he’s making a lot of noise explicitly to draw attention to the art exhibit as some form of marketing. Neither would surprise me.

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• galoisghost@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s great. Funny, clever. Pretentious as fuck. I love it.

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  • TassieTosser@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This was a magnificent troll and someone took the bait. Let her take the art to the next level.

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• perviouslyiner@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Meanwhile in the UK, this old relic is in the news today, remaining men-only despite the law demanding otherwise.

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• autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is the best summary I could come up with:

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  The creator of an art installation that has become the subject of a formal anti-discrimination complaint says she is “absolutely delighted” that the case has ended up in Tasmania’s civil and administrative tribunal.

  The opportunity to extend the performance aspect of Ladies Lounge was embraced by the artist and 25 female supporters, who entered Tuesday’s tribunal hearing wearing a uniform of navy business attire.

  Lau argued that denying men access to some of the museum’s most important works (there is a Sidney Nolan, a Pablo Picasso and a trove of antiquities from Mesopotamia, Central America and Africa in the women-only space) is discriminatory.

  An experience in a pub on Flinders Island several years ago, when Kaechele and a girlfriend were advised by male patrons that they would feel “more comfortable” retiring to the ladies lounge, inspired the work.

  The Californian-born artist was not aware that ladies lounges are a feature of Australia’s recent social history, and that Australian women were not allowed to enter public bars until 1965.

  Mona’s lawyer Catherine Scott told Guardian Australia the case was an unusual one because the artwork was both a physical entity – a lounge – and a piece of performance art.

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  The original article contains 943 words, the summary contains 199 words. Saved 79%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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  • x4740N@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t agree with sectioning off artworks and artifacts and restricting it to one gender

    This doesn’t mean I disagree with woman’s only spaces where they can feel safe, I only disagree with the ones that are trans exclusionary

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    • Drusas@kbin.run ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The article explicitly says that the ladies lounge is only off limits to people who don't identify as female. Trans women are allowed in.

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    • CopernicusQwark@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I read through the ABC article on this yesterday, and I’m pretty sure it said that people who identify as women are also welcome in the installation.

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    • BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If a woman needs a space devoid of men to feel safe they need psychiatric care, not a club.

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