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Good luck doing so. I disconnected the antenna and removed the DCM fuse from my Toyota. Track this motherfuckers 🖕🏻
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Submitted 8 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 8 months ago
Cossty@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I cant wait for the day when I can install Debian on my car. Until then I am not buying new car.
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No, man, that’s not even the answer. Why give those fuckers money? That’s like buying a home with cameras that can’t be removed because they’re built into the walls or the columns, and what they capture goes directly to “HousingCorp Inc.” Then you have to go through the trouble of cutting the cables or placing tapes or covers on their lenses. Half way through that task, you should be asking yourself, “why the fuck am I doing this?”
Car makers should be in the business of selling you cars, that is, a means of transportation, and that’s it. Would you accept a pair of jeans that will track you? What about shoes? Hell, I refuse to buy those fucking toothbrushes with bluetooth!
I can see a cheaper option that tracks you; sure. But it would be a choice, not something shoved up your nose. I swore off TVs altogether because all of them have “smart” features. Fuck smart features! Sell me a damn TV that is not trying to connect to the internet! If I want it to connect to the internet, then I’ll stick some HDMI device to it, thankyouverymuch.
And we definitely agree in one thing: I will never buy a new car if it has that tracking bullshit, or disabled features that require a subscription bullshit.
Hiro8811@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Can’t they go back to making real cars? Like that AE86.
rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
if you have a vehicle with 3G like 2019 and earlier 4Runners, ya good already.
Call in via the car with your VIN to disconnect the radio. You’ll have to navigate the phone menu but I did it while waiting for Costco’s air pressure machine.
You can also pull the DCM fuse but that’ll take the microphone with it.
mihies@kbin.social 8 months ago
Wait, wat? They collect sexual activity? 🤪
thegreekgeek@midwest.social 8 months ago
They see when you’ve been fapping, they know when you’re awake. They know where you are parked at night but there’s no name so it’s okay. OH!
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 8 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Dr Katharine Kemp, from the Faculty of Law & Justice at the University of New South Wales, says cars can collect information through features like their cameras, sensors and internet-connected systems, but also from drivers’ mobile devices and their dealings with related third parties.
The program’s policy document says Toyota collects data for various purposes if drivers don’t opt out — including for safety, security, research, product development and data analysis — but the company may also share it with third parties such as finance and insurance companies, debt collection agencies and market research organisations.
“The more I looked into it, the way that Toyota can log into your car remotely, keep a record of all sorts of bits and pieces, and possibly share your driving behaviour with your insurance company — I just thought the whole lot outweighed the benefits,” he said.
In a statement to ABC News, the company said customers could opt out of Connected Services, but that doing so would disable other features including Bluetooth and speaker functionality.
The report found brands such as BMW, Ford, Toyota, Tesla, Kia, and Subaru could “collect deeply personal data such as sexual activity, immigration status, race, facial expressions, weight, health and genetic information, and where you drive”, which they could potentially sell to third parties.
CHOICE’s Mr Alam told the ABC’s RN Drive that consumers should be able to have modern connectivity features without car companies sharing their information with third parties.
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QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not just phone numbers and email addresses, but a recent ruling by a federal judge allows them to record and collect text messages without worry:
theverge.com/…/automakers-collect-record-text-mes…
ForestOrca@kbin.social 8 months ago
Wouldn't end-to-end encryption with, for instance, Signal sidestep some of this data collection? Specifically related to text, telephony, video conferencing? Could one use a masked email to put a layer between oneself and one's car/ car company?
I'm just 'brainstorming' as this is a big issue, and I"m sure there are folks that have done deeper study and thinking on these impacts on our privacy. What about using a VPN?
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Government agencies have already been permitted to read notifications, so if it is readable and recordable by the car in any form, then you bet your ass law enforcement can obtain access to it.
extant@lemmy.world 8 months ago
A lot of it has to do with things like Android Auto or Apple car play where the software needs access to your text message to read it to you and may need to send it to a more powerful cloud base system to translate your voice to text or the response from text into voice. These are legitimate reasons for using that data despite the taboo nature of how we view privacy and there are workarounds and technological breakthroughs that make it so those things can be done locally without sending it for processing but there’s pros and cons for technical reasons not to. That said does a system need to read every text message on your phone just to read out a text you’ve only just received absolutely not and this is where things get into the grey area.
The problem is that if you want that car you have to agree to these data policies that are very blatantly just trying to to take all of the data they can to monetize either directly from selling or trading or indirectly like improving services. What we need are strong laws in place to protect privacy but that’s an uphill battle when politicians are beholden to capitalism.
So to go back and actually answer your original question, yes, encryption is our only means or privacy assuming in this case signal encrypts data at rest.
kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
what if you just don’t connect your phone to the car?
QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Then they won’t get your messages are any other information specific to your device.
But cars don’t need that connection to phone home with all of the data that the car itself is picking up on. Cars today all have some sort of cheap connection so that they can pass on your data one way or another.
bitwolf@lemmy.one 8 months ago
Connect your phone but don’t grant the Bluetooth connection rights to your contacts and call logs.