Eufy users: first time?
Ubiquiti Users Somehow Being Fed Access to Strangers' Security Cameras
Submitted 11 months ago by whfsdude@dmv.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.404media.co/ubiquiti-users-somehow-being-fed-access-to-strangers-security-cameras/
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Kanzar@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
RGB3x3@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What’s the low down on this? I just bought a Eufy system thinking it was great because all the video storage is local.
hedgehog@ttrpg.network 11 months ago
theverge.com/…/anker-eufy-security-camera-cloud-p…
theverge.com/…/anker-eufy-security-camera-answers…
Basically there are instances where e2ee was promised but not actually present.
I believe that images sent alongside notifications may lack e2ee as well but am unsure.
Kanzar@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Still remote access so… 🤷🏻♀️
ReducedArc@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Wyze users: first time?
TWeaK@lemm.ee 11 months ago
If you can access the data, so can someone else.
ripcord@kbin.social 11 months ago
Yep, just confirmed there is no end-to-end encryption and that they can see anyone's cameras at any time (or anyone that compromised ubnt)
thefartographer@lemm.ee 11 months ago
That’s not true! I bet you can’t see this comment cuz I’m real super sneaky on the security.
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Shit, I accidentally pasted my password into a comment again. Guys? How do you delete a password from a comment?
dhork@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Hey, Lemmy’s security works awesome! All I see is
Hey, someone else try posting their password here to see if it works!
radix@lemm.ee 11 months ago
hunter2 jokes aside, that’s a pretty good password.
Dave@lemmy.nz 11 months ago
The only safe data is data that no one can access, including yourself?
cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Best place to start if you’re taking security seriously; Implementing file encryption for example has to start with “I would rather that I myself potentially lose access to this data than for it to possibly fall into another person’s hands.”
TWeaK@lemm.ee 11 months ago
When I lose things it’s almost always because I’ve put them in a safe place. Safe from me!
But yeah it’s really about factoring in likelihood and opportunity. I think it helps to compare physical and digital spaces. If you have a CCTV system, then anyone could watch the monitors and see what’s happening - however they’d have to get into the building, find their way to the secure room, log in to the system, etc. When something is online it creates better opportunity for surreptitious access and also greater likelihood in terms of the number of people who could potentially come across it. While in the physical space you might get away with having staff control access during the day and locking the door at night, online you have to have far more robust security measures to achieve the same level of safety.
So it’s maybe better to say: the easier it is for you to access data, the easier it is for someone else to.
ripcord@kbin.social 11 months ago
No.
0110010001100010@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There’s a very good reason my cameras stay internal only and are blocked 100% from the internet. I can access them via the NVR with a Wireguard tunnel when I’m away from home.
Molecular0079@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I am still shocked that so many people are okay with cloud-based camera systems. It just seems like a security and privacy nightmare.
Granted, setting up a DIY NAS to host a server and store footage is a whole technical challenge for most people, but still…
frezik@midwest.social 11 months ago
Thing is, Ubiquiti cameras aren’t cloud based. At least not to the same extent. The authentication system is cloud based, but the controller and storage is local.
You can pay for several years of a cloud subscription for the cost of either a NAS or a Ubiquity storage server.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Same here; LAN only with a VPN to get into the LAN. There is no reason to send my camera feeds to another party. All that can come from that is trouble.
Sixner@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What cameras/setup do you use (or just recommend)?
phx@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Ditto. “The Cloud” is just another name for somebody else’s computer which you don’t control
0110010001100010@lemmy.world 11 months ago
As always, relevant XKCD: xkcd.com/908/
Sixner@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What cameras/setup do you use (or just recommend)?
hillbicks@feddit.de 11 months ago
Reolink has always been a good choice. Very good hardware for the price and they support onvif on most devices, which you can then use however you like.
0110010001100010@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Reolink, Ubiquiti, Dahua, Amcrest, and Wyze. Nice thing about a third-party NVR is you can mix and match whatever is cheapest or best for a given spot. I’m currently using iSpy Agent for the NVR as it’s runs nicely in docker. Then I layer Codeproject.AI over top for person detection rather than just generic motion alerts. I’m using a 2090 Ti GPU (which is WAY overkill but I got it for free) to make the AI detection very fast.
lemmylommy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If you want cheap and good cameras: Some Annke cameras like the C800 are rebranded Hikvision models. Add a NVR like Frigate and you have a cheap and powerful local surveillance system.