Submitted 11 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-comments-3-day-work-week-possible-ai-2023-11
Bill Gates says a 3-day work week where ‘machines can make all the food and stuff’ isn’t a bad idea::“A society where you only have to work three days a week, that’s probably OK,” Bill Gates said.
If we convert half of thee population to food we might be able to cut that workweek down to 2 days.
Yea sure, and then slowly slowly even stop those who work 3 per days, right? So the AI csn do all the job. Now they lose money, but once they put AI they will only win money.
AI is good, they develop AI to help us, and then, one day will ditch us.
It is easier to have AI optimize the bullshit jobs than the shit jobs.
“I mean, it’s sure been great for me folks!”
Utopia would be one where humans can focus on art and science to advance our race while the mundane work of running a society is all automated. Stuff like this is not enough, but it seems like a step in the right direction where income remains the same to maintain a standard of living while still producing the same output
Great, that can be his next project after making sure the COVID vaccine was subject to patent law.
I wish him to become a monk or someone like that, and disappear forever
Great. Now tell us about your flights on Epstein’s plane.
No one wants to work. They want to feel valued, and be productive. So let’s just make it where working isn’t a necessity, pls.
I don’t want to feel valued or productive, so I don’t work
You can get both of those things without working. But if you don’t want them, that’s fine.
What will happen is some people will work more then that at second jobs for more money, and then that will drive down wages for everyone else.
If machine’s make everything how can we have work for everyone? Even for 3days a year
I think the point is to look past the idea of having to work just for the sake of an income.
I believe the saying is that machines makes most of the manufacturing, simple and mundane services. Humans could then focus on research and development (improving machines), improving our living standard, medicine psychology and so on. And have time to do what you like.
If you listen to sam altman the agi, amachine that improves itself and can do research is 5yr away. Probs marketing talk.
Machines making all the food? I’m out, my pallette deserves bettrt.
Pretty sure you could just make your own on your days off.
Do you only eat food that has been untouched by machines now?
Yeah! I’ll take my certified organic farm-to-table heritage tomato that was sorted and packaged by machines in a factory. But at least it was grown by a real farmer… In a batch of millions and harvested by a machine.
Yay! Pay cuts for everyone!
Sure, let the food industry do their processing conveniently in three days. Nobody needs these farmers anyway who work their usual six and a half…
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I think the idea would be to have machines replace people wherever possible and then have multiple people split the work time where it isn’t. Why does one farmer have to work 24/7 if two could split the work and actually have a life outside of work?
I think ultimately this is going to become the crunch point. Because what kind of jobs can AI eventually take over (with appropriate robotics) in the mid-term future?
Now, when it comes to industrial and farm work. There's a LOT that is already semi-automated. One person can do the job with tech that might have taken 10 or more now. I can see this improving and if we ever pull of a more generalised AI approach, more entire roles could be eliminated.
My main point is, we're already at the point where the number of jobs that need people are considerably less than they used to be, this trend will continue. We know we cannot trust the free market and business in general to be ethical about this. So we should expect a large surplus of people with no real chance of gainful employment.
How we deal with that is important. Do we keep capitalism and go with a UBI and allow people to pursue their passions to top that up? Do we have some kind of inverse lottery for the jobs that do need doing? Where people perhaps take a 3 month block of 3 day working weeks to fill some of the positions that are needed? I'm not sure. I suspect we're going to go through at least a short period of "dark age" where the rich get MUCH richer, and everyone else gets screwed over before something is done about the problem.
Looks to me like Gates is looking ahead at this.
Sorry if that wall of text sounds pessimistic. Just one way I can see things going.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
When Noah asked about the threat of artificial intelligence to jobs, Gates said there could one day be a time when humans “don’t have to work so hard.”
While artificial intelligence could bring about some positive change, Gates has previously acknowledged the risks of AI if it’s misused.
Word processing applications didn’t do away with office work, but they changed it forever," Gates said at the time.
JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon said that the next generation of workers will only have a 3.5-day work week due to AI.
“Your children will live to 100 and not have cancer because of technology and they’ll probably be working three and a half days a week,” Dimon told Bloomberg in October.
Gates once viewed sleep as lazy and told Noah that his life was all about Microsoft from the ages 18 to 40 years old.
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KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
When I was a child I envisioned fully automated luxury communism driven by robots and AI.
Realizing that wouldn’t happen for the dumbest possible reasons as a teen/young adult was immeasurably disappointing