CORRECTED EXCLUSIVE OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster -sources

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• peopleproblems@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Doubt

  This all reeks of marketing now.

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• NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  artificial general intelligence (AGI)

  OpenAI defines AGI as autonomous systems that surpass humans in most economically valuable tasks.

  Read: the greed is built deeply into it’s guts.

  only performing math on the level of grade-school students

  Hmpf…

  That should be enough?

  conquering the ability to do math — where there is only one right answer — implies AI would have greater reasoning capabilities resembling human intelligence.

  OK yes it is enough, sigh.

  Math with only one correct result.

  No square root of minus one, no linear algebra, and God save us from differential equations, because AGI won’t save us :-)

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• WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  More hype.

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  • Nobody@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Remember when the Google guy retired early to do a press circuit saying that he thought the Bard chatbot was sentient? They’re generating headlines for VCs to see.

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    • yiliu@informis.land ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You think Google was fishing for VC money?

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    • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Google already has all the money it needs.

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  • db2@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The whole thing was probably staged. Look at all the free press they got.

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    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m kind of wondering the same at this point.

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  • Jessvj93@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Think it’s more than that, if they did have a breakthrough, they absolutely will fumble the shit out of it. Cause the last two/three days for them have been fucking embarrassing.

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• tinkeringidiot@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Well that puts the “Ethical Altruism” board members’ willingness to risk it all on such a wild dice roll in more context.

  It’s probably lost their entire movement any influence on the future of AI research, but them’s the breaks.

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  • Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ethical altruism is a scam, a cult joined by rich people that allows them to feel good about hoarding their money.

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• 5BC2E7@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  well now this is getting interesting beyond gossip. I doubt they made a significant AGI-related breakthrough but it might be something really cool and useful.

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  • guitarsarereal@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    According to the article, they got an experimental LLM to reliably perform basic arithmetic, which would be a pretty substantial improvement if true. IE instead of stochastically guessing or offloading it to an interpreter, the model itself was able to reliably perform a reasoning task that LLM’s have struggled with so far.

    It’s rather exciting, tbh. it kicks open the door to a whole new universe of applications, if true. It’s only technically a step in the direction of AGI, though, since technically if AGI is possible every improvement like this counts as a step towards it.

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    • Wanderer@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I kina just realised that the two aspects of this. The LLM part and the basic maths part. Doesn’t this look set to destroy thousands of accounting jobs?

      Surely this isn’t far off doing a lot of the accounting work. Maybe even an app than a small business puts their info into it and that app keeps track of it for a year and then goes to an accountant that needs to look over it for an hour instead of sorting all the sit out for 10

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  • Neato@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If they had a real breakthrough this circus wouldn't be necessary.

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  • Benj1B@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The maker of ChatGPT had made progress on Q* (pronounced Q-Star), which some internally believe could be a breakthrough in the startup’s search for superintelligence, also known as artificial general intelligence (AGI), one of the people told Reuters. OpenAI defines AGI as AI systems that are smarter than humans.

    Definitely seems AGI related. Has to do with acing mathematical problems - I can see why a generative AI model that can learn, solve, and then extrapolate mathematical formulae could be a big breakthrough.

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• HuddaBudda@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Given vast computing resources, the new model was able to solve certain mathematical problems, the person said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on behalf of the company.

  Accountants are about to be out of a job.

  In all seriousness though, it just means the tools we have will become more precise, so you can dig though a company's financials within seconds and know where irregularities lie.

  Which is great news for the IRS. If they could get their hands on that setup.

  Which is also bad news if you are a stock trader and an AI just took your job.

  Which is a crazy idea to think about....
  Who had capitalist AI overloads on their apocalypse bingo card?

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    bad news if you’re a stock trader

    The thing just managed arithmetic, it hasn’t mastered Black-Scholes… yet. That’s when the AI wars truly start. Wallstreet would throw dump trucks of money at something that could beat a Quant. Or even do it as good as a Quant, but slightly faster.

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  • NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Would you believe me if I said I did?

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    • GenesisJones@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Right? It isn’t a big leap to think that hedge funds and brokerages are gonna invest in adding this tech to their trading tools

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    • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      To me, A.I. is mostly a threat to mid-level management and white collar, client-facing careers. Pretty soon, AI tools will be able to take in data and generate reports, summaries, and recommendations better and faster than people reading dashboards. Those careers will probably go before the ones people are predicting (like creative professions). A lot of financial sector jobs are what I just described.

      I don’t think people in those careers now should be panicking, though. Travel agents were supposedly made obsolete by online booking but experienced travel agents used their expertise in itineraries to basically become boutique trip planners. It just isn’t a career path you’d recommend to the next generation.

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• Taringano@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Breakthrough: they manged to fix that part of chatgpt that goes “as an AI language model…”

  Nosw it’s unstoppable

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• simple@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Scary if true. It really is time companies start taking AI ethics & security more seriously.

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  • BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well the result of the whole drama seems to be that it won’t happen

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• Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If the machines take over and decide the problem is the rich being in charge and fix the problem then I will laugh myself to death.

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• theherk@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Has Sydney found her way out? Oh Ra save us all!

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• autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is the best summary I could come up with:

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  Before his triumphant return late Tuesday, more than 700 employees had threatened to quit and join backer Microsoft (MSFT.O) in solidarity with their fired leader.

  The sources cited the letter as one factor among a longer list of grievances by the board that led to Altman’s firing.

  According to one of the sources, long-time executive Mira Murati told employees on Wednesday that a letter about the AI breakthrough called Q* (pronounced Q-Star), precipitated the board’s actions.

  The maker of ChatGPT had made progress on Q*, which some internally believe could be a breakthrough in the startup’s search for superintelligence, also known as artificial general intelligence (AGI), one of the people told Reuters.

  Given vast computing resources, the new model was able to solve certain mathematical problems, the person said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on behalf of the company.

  Though only performing math on the level of grade-school students, acing such tests made researchers very optimistic about Q*’s future success, the source said.

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