cross-posted from: lemdro.id/post/2763567 (!android@lemdro.id)
google is delighted to have the opportunity to know everything about what you do in your weird car
Porsche will adopt Android Automotive, complete with Google apps
Submitted 8 months ago by ijeff@lemdro.id to technology@lemmy.world
https://9to5google.com/2023/10/30/porsche-android-automotive-deal/
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awnery@lemmy.world 8 months ago
5dashes@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Mozilla calls cars from 25 automakers ‘data privacy nightmares on wheels’
Car manufacturers are way ahead of them. I guess in that case both companies will receive your data.
archomrade@midwest.social 8 months ago
Ahead of them?
Mateoto@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Embracing Android Automotive, instead of investing millions in proprietary software with basic flaws, is not only a strategic necessity for European car manufacturers like Volkswagen but also a testament to the importance of staying competitive in the digital age.
Nonetheless, it’s crucial that amidst this transition, they remain vigilant about safeguarding user data and privacy.
baked_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Oh you know it will not be overlooked
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Laughs hysterically in Google. Oh my God, I’m going to have cramps. What would Google possibly want with massive data dumps from people buying new porsches??
GigglyBobble@kbin.social 8 months ago
However, data privacy should not be overlooked.
Yeah, well, you're driving around with your mobile
tracking devicephone anyway, so there's not much more privacy invasion by coupling it to your car.archomrade@midwest.social 8 months ago
“I’m already wet from the rain, might as well dive into this swamp”
EyesEyesBaby@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not that I was buying a Porsche anyway, but I wouldn’t buy any car with built in Google apps.
Pxtl@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I have to say, considering how Google half-asses things I’d have no confidence in this product. That said, a half-assed effort by Google is still probably better software than the full-ass software effort by carmakers.
My real dream is to get these things fully modular. Let my lift up the touchscreen to access a cavity where a little SBC is wired into a couple of USB ports and a mini DisplayPort. What’s it got to run? Audio, touchscreen, GPS, phone-over-Bluetooth? That stuff is well-known. Basically the only place where I expect standard interfaces to fall on their face is climate control. As an API fallback, have the built-in car-computer run a private web-server for controlling the car’s non-standard hardware. Then just have the SBC use a browser for those screens. Only API needed is “what URIs do I show for what features like climate or trip-odometer or whatever screens can’t be standardized at the infotainment level”.
laxmanndhotre@lemmy.world 8 months ago
My worry is that google once obtaining the monopoly/duopoly, will do what they did with android, kill all of its “open” values in the name of security and push their own services
redcalcium@lemmy.institute 8 months ago
Car components talk via CAN bus. There are many aftermarket head units that includes CAN bus support and has presets talk and retrieve information from multiple car models. The problem is, most cars manufactured in the past several years don’t allow aftermarket head unit installation anymore, so you’re basically stuck with whatever entertainment system the car manufacturer put in the car for the rest of the car’s life.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Meanwhile GM is removing CarPlay and android auto so they can monetize the in-car experience z
I swear to god I hope that move bites them in the ass hard
LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Don’t get excited. Android Auto and Android Automotive are not the same thing.
androidpolice.com/android-auto-vs-android-automot…
GM is using Automotive, too. Automotive is an opportunity for car manufacturers and Google to lock you down even more.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Ah fucking hell Fuck me
TheIllustrativeMan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
… By using android automotive and Google apps. The same thing Porsche just announced in this article.
ramble81@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I know Audi has been using Linux based infotainment systems for years now, so I can see VAG moving towards this as a way of reducing development costs. I just hope the implementation is better than what’s in Volvo cars because right now the customization sucks around it.
juladuni@lemmy.world 8 months ago
As if the average Porsche owner would own a android device
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
In Europe it’s not uncommon, Apple only really have a monopoly in the US
buran@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Neither company has a monopoly anywhere but the mix of Android and iOS varies greatly by region.
Thankfully, most cars that support phone projection support both, probably because of that fact. Easier to develop a single configuration that works for everyone.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The rest of the world isn’t the US
And Android Automotive != Android phone
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
It doesn’t really matter. The Naming is very confusing but Android automotive is not android auto.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Why wouldn’t they?
Greggo@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Just give me bluetooth audio.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Android Auto works like shit, that’s all i know
roi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Android Automotive is different: Android Auto streams from your phone, and Android Automotive is the car’s actual OS. If it’s not the cars OS it’s the infotainment center’s OS.
greybeard@lemmy.one 8 months ago
Perhaps your car has poor Android Auto, but for me it works great. I bought an after market stereo which included wireless android auto. No more random disconnects when the usb-c cable is bumped. I turn my car on and within a few seconds my phone automatically connects. Its simple, does the job of giving me media control and maps from my phones, and at least on my 4 year old after market head unit runs real smooth.
Car manufacturers keep cheaping out in the wireless though. So dumb for what is probably $5 in additional costs.
Shave_MyBeever@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Maybe this type of thing will keep Google from mothballing Android Auto, as they have been known to do with numerous other projects.
LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Android Automotive and Android Auto are different things. Google will ultimately abandon Auto in favor of Automotive because Google and car manufacturers will largely benefit from locking you down using Automotive.
malockin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Personally, I still prefer Android Auto (i.e. phone projected onto car screen) to Android Automotive (Android built into the car infotainment system). My phone gets way more updates than my car, and it’s cheaper to buy a new phone once it stops getting updates.
I have the same sentiment towards smart TVs vs plain old “dumb” TVs + a streamer.
buran@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Android Automotive (the car OS) does support phone projection (Android Auto and CarPlay).
From what I’ve seen in reviews of cars that have it, Automotive is pretty solid, and I’d take an EV that had it as long as CarPlay were an option. (So no GM for me).
leap123@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Mines a dumb TV with an old laptop that has Linux installed
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I’ve been hearing a lot about this Linux thing. Should I switch?
GigglyBobble@kbin.social 8 months ago
Just wait a couple more years...
Empricorn@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Most of the world doesn’t buy the most expensive iPhone or Galaxy device every 1-2 years. There will always be less expensive models sold.