cross-posted from: lemdro.id/post/2763567 (!android@lemdro.id)
google is delighted to have the opportunity to know everything about what you do in your weird car
Submitted 1 year ago by ijeff@lemdro.id to technology@lemmy.world
https://9to5google.com/2023/10/30/porsche-android-automotive-deal/
cross-posted from: lemdro.id/post/2763567 (!android@lemdro.id)
google is delighted to have the opportunity to know everything about what you do in your weird car
Mozilla calls cars from 25 automakers ‘data privacy nightmares on wheels’
Car manufacturers are way ahead of them. I guess in that case both companies will receive your data.
Ahead of them?
Embracing Android Automotive, instead of investing millions in proprietary software with basic flaws, is not only a strategic necessity for European car manufacturers like Volkswagen but also a testament to the importance of staying competitive in the digital age.
Nonetheless, it’s crucial that amidst this transition, they remain vigilant about safeguarding user data and privacy.
Oh you know it will not be overlooked
Laughs hysterically in Google. Oh my God, I’m going to have cramps. What would Google possibly want with massive data dumps from people buying new porsches??
However, data privacy should not be overlooked.
Yeah, well, you're driving around with your mobile tracking device phone anyway, so there's not much more privacy invasion by coupling it to your car.
“I’m already wet from the rain, might as well dive into this swamp”
Not that I was buying a Porsche anyway, but I wouldn’t buy any car with built in Google apps.
I have to say, considering how Google half-asses things I’d have no confidence in this product. That said, a half-assed effort by Google is still probably better software than the full-ass software effort by carmakers.
My real dream is to get these things fully modular. Let my lift up the touchscreen to access a cavity where a little SBC is wired into a couple of USB ports and a mini DisplayPort. What’s it got to run? Audio, touchscreen, GPS, phone-over-Bluetooth? That stuff is well-known. Basically the only place where I expect standard interfaces to fall on their face is climate control. As an API fallback, have the built-in car-computer run a private web-server for controlling the car’s non-standard hardware. Then just have the SBC use a browser for those screens. Only API needed is “what URIs do I show for what features like climate or trip-odometer or whatever screens can’t be standardized at the infotainment level”.
My worry is that google once obtaining the monopoly/duopoly, will do what they did with android, kill all of its “open” values in the name of security and push their own services
Car components talk via CAN bus. There are many aftermarket head units that includes CAN bus support and has presets talk and retrieve information from multiple car models. The problem is, most cars manufactured in the past several years don’t allow aftermarket head unit installation anymore, so you’re basically stuck with whatever entertainment system the car manufacturer put in the car for the rest of the car’s life.
Meanwhile GM is removing CarPlay and android auto so they can monetize the in-car experience z
I swear to god I hope that move bites them in the ass hard
Don’t get excited. Android Auto and Android Automotive are not the same thing.
androidpolice.com/android-auto-vs-android-automot…
GM is using Automotive, too. Automotive is an opportunity for car manufacturers and Google to lock you down even more.
Ah fucking hell Fuck me
… By using android automotive and Google apps. The same thing Porsche just announced in this article.
I know Audi has been using Linux based infotainment systems for years now, so I can see VAG moving towards this as a way of reducing development costs. I just hope the implementation is better than what’s in Volvo cars because right now the customization sucks around it.
As if the average Porsche owner would own a android device
In Europe it’s not uncommon, Apple only really have a monopoly in the US
Neither company has a monopoly anywhere but the mix of Android and iOS varies greatly by region.
Thankfully, most cars that support phone projection support both, probably because of that fact. Easier to develop a single configuration that works for everyone.
The rest of the world isn’t the US
And Android Automotive != Android phone
It doesn’t really matter. The Naming is very confusing but Android automotive is not android auto.
Why wouldn’t they?
Just give me bluetooth audio.
Android Auto works like shit, that’s all i know
Android Automotive is different: Android Auto streams from your phone, and Android Automotive is the car’s actual OS. If it’s not the cars OS it’s the infotainment center’s OS.
Perhaps your car has poor Android Auto, but for me it works great. I bought an after market stereo which included wireless android auto. No more random disconnects when the usb-c cable is bumped. I turn my car on and within a few seconds my phone automatically connects. Its simple, does the job of giving me media control and maps from my phones, and at least on my 4 year old after market head unit runs real smooth.
Car manufacturers keep cheaping out in the wireless though. So dumb for what is probably $5 in additional costs.
Maybe this type of thing will keep Google from mothballing Android Auto, as they have been known to do with numerous other projects.
Android Automotive and Android Auto are different things. Google will ultimately abandon Auto in favor of Automotive because Google and car manufacturers will largely benefit from locking you down using Automotive.
malockin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Personally, I still prefer Android Auto (i.e. phone projected onto car screen) to Android Automotive (Android built into the car infotainment system). My phone gets way more updates than my car, and it’s cheaper to buy a new phone once it stops getting updates.
I have the same sentiment towards smart TVs vs plain old “dumb” TVs + a streamer.
buran@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Android Automotive (the car OS) does support phone projection (Android Auto and CarPlay).
From what I’ve seen in reviews of cars that have it, Automotive is pretty solid, and I’d take an EV that had it as long as CarPlay were an option. (So no GM for me).
leap123@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Mines a dumb TV with an old laptop that has Linux installed
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I’ve been hearing a lot about this Linux thing. Should I switch?
GigglyBobble@kbin.social 1 year ago
Just wait a couple more years...
Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 year ago
Most of the world doesn’t buy the most expensive iPhone or Galaxy device every 1-2 years. There will always be less expensive models sold.