Carbon Capture Tech Hype Is Fizzling Out, IEA Says

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• AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lol it was always a lie, just like “clean coal technology.”

  The capitalists will always use the crises they cause to part you with more of your capital. They’re just the evolution of ye olde traveling snake oil salesman that used their grift to become the world’s owners.

  And because so many poor, deluded peasants truly, darkly, hilariously believe capitalism can solve the problems capitalism propagates, we’re going to be pumping carbon shit into the air until the capitalists have no more surface peasants left alive to bark orders at from their temperature controlled bunker compounds.

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  • Eheran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Carbon capture can make sense.

    Not sure how you can spin that as some sort of capitalist shenanigans when in reality, a lot of universities and start ups created stuff with very little funding.

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    • Rhaedas@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There is existing, and there is being effective for the advertised job. Carbon capture certainly exists in different forms and makes sense as an addon to an existing emitter. It's hyped to be a lot more than what it does, even used to excuse more emissions growth, and that's the snake oil being talked about. In the end the only true "solution" is to reduce the actual production of emissions, something that the overall world is not will to do. And I put solution in quotes because we're decades behind on action that would be meaningful, having exponentially increased the pollution since then. We'd have to do far more than just stop emissions to fix anything.

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    • AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      www.greenpeace.org/…/great-carbon-capture-scam/

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• FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s always seemed nonsensical to me. Now I studied the computer stuff, not physics but… it seems like you’d need a gigafuckton (SI unit right there) of energy to get the CO2 levels down in an appreciable way when the levels were talking about here are in the hundreds of parts per million… just seems like it’d be incredibly inefficient at best

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  • wosat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m with you. Also, it seems like it would be much more efficient to do carbon capture at the source, where the fuel is being used, like a power plant, where the concentrations are relatively high, compared to atmospheric capture where CO2 is less than 0.1%.

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    • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah. Carbon capture of flue gas would be much more efficient… but we’re also not really doing that so…

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  • serratur@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We would need clean energy production to cover demand and then have the capacity to produce excess energy for it to ever be anything to consider at all, we are nowhere close to that.

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We’ll actually HAVE to do it at one point but yeah, it will take a good 30-50% of the world’s energy budget for decades to centuries to do so.

    However, until we’re on 100% nuclear / renewable, you’re just generating 100 carbon for every 30 you capture. That’s where the stupidity lies. Even if you use renewable energy to power your capture plant, it still be more efficient to just route that energy directly into the grid where it would then avoid someone else having to generate the carbon to use the energy.

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  • redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    SI unit right there

    Wonder what my physics teacher will say in the next exam when I calculate with it. What’s the abreviation?

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    • FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Hmmm… Gfucks I suppose. Gotta capitalise the G!

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  • Zeth0s@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Problem is not energy even, it’s that they are not transforming CO2, meaning that is still there, simply temporarily stored. It is not a solution. It can be part of a solution. But currently there are better and cheaper overall solutions

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• JIMMERZ@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I drank the carbon capture kool-aid for a time early on. It sounded too good to be true. Unfortunately it was.

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