Submitted 1 year ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to games@lemmy.world
https://insider-gaming.com/the-xbox-series-s-is-more-popular-than-the-xbox-series-x/
According to documents from Microsoft's recent case against the FTC, the Xbox Series S is more popular than the Xbox Series X
It makes sense. It may suprise a lot of people on here but their biggest market is not the people who demand 4k 60FPS in all games and will riot if they don’t get it. Their main market is kids playing FIFA and Minecraft and other casual gamers who just enjoy fun games at a reasonable budget. For that they really got it right with the Series S.
While I agree with you, the fact that no game has released in the past 10 years without major patches and updates means what’s on that physical media is useless
Nintendo understanding this market is a big part of how they’ve been outselling MS and Sony in the Wii and Switch generations despite being behind on hardware power.
Makes sense because the Series S is dumb cheap. Only the Steam Deck can compare in terms of value
The Steam Deck is more expensive.
Series S: $274.95
https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck
Steam Deck: $359.10
And that's for the low-end Steam Deck. The nicest one is $519.20, almost twice what the Series S runs.
Compete in terms of value, not price. The series S gets you Xbox’s current gen game library and a selection of 360 games, and if you’re willing to use dev mode a powerful emulation suite. Deck gets a huge percentage of Steam’s 20-year catalog as one-click installs, most other PC games that don’t use anticheat as slightly more involved installs, every PC game if you want to install windows, and also a powerful emulation suite. Plus it’s a dockable handheld instead of something that needs a monitor and controller.
The series S has better media apps and can be woken up from the couch, though.
Steam deck is a mobile PC. That’s infinitely more valuable than a locked down platform device.
I would argue that the Steam Deck's emulation capabilities surpass the Xbox. It might not play the latest games at amazing quality and performance, but it covers a wide breadth of games, far wider than what Xbox supports.
Depends on whether you’re willing to spend $20 to turn your Series S into a devkit, at which point the S can be an utter beast for emulation.
I mean, for a long time the Series S was all I saw in stores.
The “S” had a good two years lead in availability, so anyone who needed to replace their console got that. Anyone impatient got that.
Personally I hapgave up after two years not being able to get my kids X’s, and instead built gaming computers with them. No more xboxes
I’ve been waiting for a game that will be worth it, that I can only play on a new console, and so far I haven’t seen one. I’m closer to upgrading my graphics card than getting a new console at this point.
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Well yeah, most people are still using 1080p TVs. Your average console gamer doesn’t need 4K, nor do they care about framerates. They just want to play gsmes.
As an average gamer, i say you are right!
It’s an absurd value. I have two that I just use as media centers and the house. You can also travel with it very easily. About the same size as my switch one you put a travel case on it.
I wouldn’t buy one just for media. Even premium media players like NVIDIA SHIELD TV or Apple TV cost less than Xbox Series S.
And they don’t also serve as a console.
Heck, a Roku Streaming Stick is enough for me in that regard and many smart TVs have that stuff built into them by now.
Neither is very popular…lol
I know of 3 people in my life that have owned or do own an xbox.but almost everyonw i know own or have owned a playstation
Generally theyre not super popular outside of the US.
Especially in Asia, which is a shame. My country doesn’t has a game pass and no official store. At least now we have a GP on PC, but not on the console yet
I have both X and S and love the S. It’s almost portable, small, slick and gives enough power to enjoy games when I’m not in front of huge tv.
I feel like that’s like saying the MacBook air is more popular than the MacBook pro…
The X is trying to compete in a premium space, long with the PS5. The X falls short of the PS5 in almost every category that a premium consumer cares about, and I don’t think premium consumers are interested in value-oriented subscriptions like GamePass.
The S is competing with… Well definitely not the Switch. I wouldn’t say the Steam Deck either. It was competing to an extent with the PS4 and Xbox One, but not anymore. The S has kind of been left in its own market, so this news makes sense.
Maybe the Switch 2 will have some overlap in that market, but assuming it’s a hybrid handheld it might still be differentiated enough to leave the S on it’s own. Sony has been working on lowering the cost of the PS5 but I can’t see that getting anywhere near S territory. So unless something else drops I don’t see the S having competition any time soon.
The X falls short of the PS5 in almost every category that a premium consumer cares about...
What are the other categories aside from exclusives?
Controller features, VR, non-proprietsry storage.
When you’re talking about a premium market in particular, I think most high-end consumers who care about the aesthetics of their living room would prefer the official, matching Dualsense charger/stand over Microsoft’s charging kit.
The exclusives are huge, especially factoring in backwards-compatibility. Xbox is undoubtedly a better value if you already have a library of older Xbox games or you are shopping used. But if you divide consumers up into Budget, Value, and Premium tiers, I don’t think the Premium tier consumers care about playing games that old. The PS4 had way more big-budget AAA exclusives than the Xbox One did, so I think PlayStation has the advantage there.
Weirdly, I think there’s some dissonance with this around disc drives. I would think premium consumers would care less about physical media: they aren’t buying used games and probably have concerns for the aesthetic of storing physical media. I personally prefer physical media, but I consider myself a value consumer who has no qualms buying used and can handle a little bit of clutter. So I think disc drive versions are valued less by the premium segment, but costs more to manufacture. So I think that boosts the sales of the diaclsss PS5. Premium consumers aren’t interested in the Series S at all though, so if they do go Xbox they just get the X and don’t use the drive. I kind of wonder how the market will react if the rumors of Sony selling an external drive end up true.
the switch sucks ass
May Wario fart in your mouth
The S is a stellar emulation box that doesn’t need to be jailbroken. It’s a hell of a lot easier to configure than a custom Linux distro like RetroPie and the hardware packs a punch. I don’t own one, but I’d be more likely to buy a series S than a PS5 or series X.
That may be changing.
I own a Series X, but I also own a 4k TV. So, for me, it made sense to spend the extra $$$ and get a console that could truly utilize my TV’s capabilities. If I had a 1080p TV, I probably would have gone with the Series S.
I own a Series X and a 4k TV but I actually used it to game on my older 1080p TV.
I bought the Series X for the disc drive & larger internal storage primarily with the better overall specs and performance just being a bonus.
ForgetReddit@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As someone who doesn’t own an Xbox I have no idea what the difference is and that’s a huge knock on their marketing and product teams.
NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 1 year ago
X is the flagship console, while S is the lower cost version. They’re both current gen.
Jimbo@yiffit.net 1 year ago
Oh I thought the S was the refreshed last gen Xbox One?
Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Not really. If you were going to buy an xbox, you would either just buy the cheaper version, the more expensive version assuming its just better, or look up the difference.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
lol
YourAvgMortal@lemmy.world 1 year ago