Only thing he did I actually agreed with.
Jellico did nothing wrong
Submitted 1 year ago by GreenMario@lemm.ee to risa@startrek.website
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samus12345@lemmy.world 1 year ago
An_Ugly_Bastard@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I agree with everything Jelllico did. Riker was a whiny insubordinate baby. Jellico was preparing for combat.
ShranTheWaterPoloFan@startrek.website 1 year ago
The only thing he did that was questionable was set up 4 shifts. That’s a big change and having engineering work around the clock is a bit of a dick move.
Nacktmull@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Not again, please!
Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Omfg you got me with this one. I just started guffawing out loud and showed it to my GF who just shook her head and walked away.
Etterra@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Seeing what happened to him in that one comic set in the mirror timeline was my favorite thing ever.
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Refresh my memory please? I believe you’re talking about the one where Riker and Picard have a punch out and Data look more like a Borg?
WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Brilliant 🤣
UESPA_Sputnik@feddit.de 1 year ago
I never understood why the producers put Troi, Seven of Nine and T’Pol into those stupid catsuits in the first place. All of them looked so much more sexy whenever they wore the standard Starfleet uniform.
Thankfully Jellico fixed that at least for Troi.
GreenMario@lemm.ee 1 year ago
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Absolutely way better here. Said it for years Starfleet uniforms > catsuit bullshit. That has to be a specific fetish of a Paramount exec, Rick Berman probably.
Jadzia managed to dodge that bullet somehow.
Infynis@midwest.social 1 year ago
It’s because he got to make it the Bajoran uniform for Kira
JWBananas@startrek.website 1 year ago
She was instead forced to wear the sort of padding made for people who have had a mastectomy.
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
In addition to what was said about Berman, there’s also Gene Roddenberry. The best way I can explain how his opinion of women evolved over time is that he allowed Marina Sirtis to have that role on TNG even though she didn’t sleep with him. The same was not true of Nichelle Nichols in the 1960s.
Rick Berman and Gene Roddenberry understood, to varying degrees, that it was important to have women represented as strong, intelligent equals—but did not necessarily personally hold that value.
Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I am seriously in the minority but I got a huge kick out of Pulaski and thought she was the best characterized character on the show.
swab148@startrek.website 1 year ago
JFC, I hope that the next incarnation of Trek has writers and producers that aren’t so sexist.
I say this as a dude who’s sexual awakening was a combination of Stevie Nicks, Deanna Troi (as I knew her then), and Ryan Reynolds. JUST LET PEOPLE BE WHO THEY ARE. I don’t know of any military institution (and let’s be honest, that’s what Starfleet is) that specifically dresses one officer different from another based on gender, and I can’t figure out why the concept would transpose itself into a show based on being progressive. The only example I can think of is the Salvation Army, which has all the dress code qualities of your average preppy high school 30 years ago. But don’t get me started on that racket…
AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 1 year ago
I really loved Pulaski. It’s hard for me to imagine other reasons besides Crusher is hot that she made it back. She has no character.
Bonehead@kbin.social 1 year ago
Troi was put in the catsuit from day one, to capture the teenage boy market (and most of the rest of the male). They put her on a uniform at the height of Star Trek popularity.
Seven came in at season 4 of Voyager with the extremely tight catsuit. This is the third series of the 90s era plus a couple of movies, so franchise fatigue started to set in. They needed a way to boost ratings, and they already knew of one surefire way.
With Enterprise, they didn't even try to hide it. T'Pol could have very easily worn a standard Vulcan uniform, which we've seen multiple examples. The catsuit was blatantly used to try to regain some audience. Unfortunately they didn't realize until it was too late that good writing and multi-episode arcs were what we really wanted.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
It kinda killed Enterprise for me. The catsuit and the gratuitous “decontamination” scenes. It felt really off.
It’s not like I’m prudish or anything, I like that kind of thing in certain contexts. But it’s Star Trek, I’m watching this thing to get my nerd on. Trying to sex it up just made it weird.
admiralteal@kbin.social 1 year ago
I'm not entirely sure that seven's catsuit was really what boosted ratings with adding her to the crew though.
The fact is, she was a good character with interesting development. She put life back into a kind of meh show and quickly became one of the stars over most of the original crew.
But ratings was, without question, the intent of that stupid outfit regardless.
1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 1 year ago
Berman and friends thought troi was too fat looking in the standard uniform 😠 we were robbed of 5 or 6 seasons of a lady in uniform 😅
swab148@startrek.website 1 year ago
WOW, did not know that. That’s a yikes from me, bro
GreenMario@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Big fucking yikes from me too.
samus12345@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Only Troi was actually Starfleet of all those people. But that doesn’t excuse the awful costumes.
KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Did you miss the 80s?
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Blamemeta@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Because sex sells.
Nacktmull@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Well, the reason was quite obviously sexism imo. They probably considered it eye candy/fan service.