Are smart door locks more or less secure than traditional door locks?

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• kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s important to remember that no lock is entirely unpickable. It’s just a matter of time, skill, tools, and know-how. Generally speaking, if someone is willing to pick a lock, they will be able to pick your lock eventually.

  But arguably even more importantly, most people do not possess the skill, tools or know-how to pick a lock and will not try. So you get the same benefit from just about ANY lock for the vast majority of people that might break into your home, in that any functioning lock will deter them equally.

  Also, even if you have the most secure door locks known to man, even if they are literally unpickable, that will not keep motivated people from entering your home through other means. Having a perfectly secure lock just means that it become preferable for them to break in through a window, by literally breaking in a door, by your crawlspace/basement access, etc. They could also catch you outside the home and use you to gain access by threat, trickery or theft of your keys.

  So, to me, even if a smart lock is less secure than a standard lock they are both going to act as sufficient deterrence for most situations and the tangential benefits of a smart lock can be worth the marginal loss of security. But that’s a choice you have to make for yourself.

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  • Shadow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is the real answer. Everyone has a hard on for a secure lock, when a thief is just going to break a window.

    Consider your actual threat model. You don’t have the LPL trying to get into your house.

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• EvilBit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  One thing people aren’t considering is that if we assume that it’s relatively trivial to bypass either a classic lock or a smart lock, only one of the two is likely to give your phone a notification that it’s been opened in your absence.

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  • kratoz29@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Do they have a small battery? Because it is a common practice to cut down electricity when someone intends to break in your house, even with that backup source of power I guess the lack of electricity would mean no Internet anyway.

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    • EvilBit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Mine runs on 4x AA batteries, which lasts a very long time. On the order of a year. Cutting electricity would indeed prevent the notification, but a dumb lock couldn’t send one even with all the power in the world.

      Plus, in a shared apartment/condo building the power is much less likely to be cut and in a freestanding home one could theoretically put their network on a UPS so any notifications would still go out.

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• Zap@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They have their conveniences but I want to get this lock. It’s design makes picking next to impossible. Lpl couldn’t even get it. youtu.be/qV8QKZNFxLw?si=1WCdQCktVfGhJtsm

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• dipshit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Less secure.

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• mojo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s more secure as in I can’t forget to not lock the door, since it auto-locks. Also I can’t lock myself out of the house if I leave my keys inside, which I have done in the past lol. As the other nerds in here have said, it probably won’t keep you any safer against people breaking in though, but I think of it in terms of convenience.

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• warmaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  More ways to open is leds secure than leds ways to open. That said if you have an unsecured window, then that is the weakest link of the chain.

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• DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yes

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• Rooki@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  How bad some of the “secure” backup locks are or the failsafe mechanics of those or even just the software of not even cheap products are most of the time real bad and just adds more fail points.

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• lilShalom@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I have august door locks, from the outside you wouldnt know its there. They eat up batteries frequently.

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• FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  How easily could the Flipper Zero hack a smart lock? I’m guessing relatively easily.

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  • lilShalom@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If its using a wireless frequency , probably.

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  • Shadow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not at all. It’s not like they’re just listening for a dumb radio signal, they use crypto.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      …which the Flipper Zero can beat.

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• moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Much less secure, but most of either regular or smart locks are security theater anyways.

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• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  well, what do you do if it runs out of battery? electric locks really only make sense on gates and doors in apartment blocks, where it’s okay to have it just default to open in case of failure.

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• BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  ssh me@home3

  me@home3 // # : sh ./unlock_deadbolt.sh

  Click

  me@home3 // # : exit

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  • cloudless@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Conveniently skip the password prompt? At least show us the steps on how to bypass or crack the password.

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    • BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      ssh-copy-id

      Then never again. :D

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