We are, in fact, the gate.
“We’re not ‘gatekeepers,’” Apple and Microsoft tell European Union
Submitted 1 year ago by thehatfox@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 1 year ago
starman@programming.dev 1 year ago
~ Bill Gates
shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It was all foreshadowing
lando55@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Check mate, Gatheists
Marsupial@quokk.au 1 year ago
Ah the gategate conspiracy.
zerkrazus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We don’t have a monopoly. - Company with a monopoly
ares35@kbin.social 1 year ago
what they mean by that is they haven't got the hotels on all the spaces yet.
AngryAnusHornets@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]dustyData@lemmy.world 1 year ago
When you type something in Windows Start menu it defaults to a Bing online search, instead of, you know, searching your installed software and files. It’s weird.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
That’s one of the reasons I’m still on 10, because it only ever seems to give me local results, which is precisely what I want. If I want to run a query for something on the internet, I’ll do that. Restricting the context and dataset that you’re querying against is important and meaningful. I neither need nor want an “Omni-search” thing that’s basically made for boomers who don’t understand that different data exists on different devices and services.
SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Microsoft is still by far leader in the laptop/desktop OS atmosphere, that definitely counts as a gatekeeper. They’re literally the gate to the internet on a shitton of devices.
smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Actually RCS is not great example. Pretty bad “standard” only Google implemented.
Skoobie@lemmy.film 1 year ago
Obviously Apples claim is complete bullshit but damn ya gotta feel a little for Microsoft tho, right? Like they’ve been trying to capture the search engine market with Bing for so long and only after being crushed by Google, they’re being accused of succeeding 😂.
tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 1 year ago
It’s more about bing being built into windows I think… but I suspect they may get away with it just because it has little market share despite being built into windows…
ares35@kbin.social 1 year ago
bing may not be succeeding in the browser or mobile search space, but microsoft is doing everything they can think of (and get away with) to leverage windows' dominance in the OS space to trick, con or force users into bing searches directly from the OS (that display in the OS or forced into edge), as well as shoving bing-delivered, ad-infested clickbait content in front of users eyeballs whether they want it or not.
LethalSmack@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Not just built in to windows but forced on you in windows.
tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 1 year ago
So apple is saying they don’t have 45 million active monthly users in a market of 750 million people and a 34% market share?
I’m sure ‘most of our customers don’t use our product’ isn’t what they were going for…
derpgon@programming.dev 1 year ago
Either implement the current standard, or release your standard. If it’s so good, then it should be available to anyone, and everyone would want to use it, right?
If I want my app to support iMessage, I should be able to do that. If not, the fuck right off. These things are never meant “for the people”.
“But if anyone can use it, then we don’t make money off it!” - then you won’t get a cent from me, period.
sheinar@feddit.uk 1 year ago
I have some sympathy with Microsoft, minimal though it is, given how few people use Bing compared to Google. I have zero for Apple though.
yoz@aussie.zone 1 year ago
treefrog@lemm.ee 1 year ago
They’re arguing their bing devision and some others should be excluded.
Windows is still a huge market share of OSs. So, the law is capable of saying this part of Microsoft is a gatekeeper, and this part not, is what I’m saying.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 1 year ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Brussels’ battle with the two US companies over Apple’s iMessage chat app and Microsoft’s Bing search engine comes ahead of Wednesday’s publication of the first list of services to be regulated by the Digital Markets Act.
The legislation imposes new responsibilities on tech companies, including sharing data, linking to competitors, and making their services interoperable with rival apps.
Microsoft had rejected the idea that Bing should be subject to the same obligations placed on its much larger rival, Google Search, said two people with direct knowledge of the matter.
Separately, Apple argued that iMessage did not meet the threshold of user numbers at which the rules applied and therefore should not comply with obligations that include opening the service to rival apps such as Meta’s WhatsApp, said the two people.
Meta’s Instagram and Facebook and Google’s search engine are all expected to be covered by the new rules, which are aimed at opening up markets and enabling competition from European start-ups.
“The DMA will bring new competition to digital markets in Europe, and now it is up to the commission to make it work,” said Andreas Schwab, the MEP who led negotiation of the rules.
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breadsmasher@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“Companies to come under regulation argue they shouldn’t be regulated”
nosurprises@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Learn from this, @autotldr@lemmings.world bot!
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 1 year ago
I already created the summary. You can find it at lemm.ee/comment/3217890.