this will depend on where you are from. you should look up how to request it in your local area, and if your country doesn’t put that information online, go to your local government office and ask
In the age of electronics, when is go to vote can I request a paper ballot instead of a machine?
Submitted 1 month ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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disregardable@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
When I vote on the machine it fills out a paper ballot for me, then I just check it and turn it in.
It all depends on your state, city, and county and how they have it set up.
snooggums@piefed.world 1 month ago
I do a similar thing: Fill out a paper form by hand, then feed it into a machine which scans it for vote counts and keeps the paper ballot for auditing purposes.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This is how mine work.
slazer2au@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What are you talking about? We still us paper ones.
jeffw@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Who is “we”?
In the US, elections are locally run.
homes@piefed.world 1 month ago
If you want a paper ballot, request a mail in ballot. All mail in ballots are, by necessity, paper ballot.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Aha, this is why they’re trying to kill the mail ballot
homes@piefed.world 1 month ago
It really is. Mail in ballots are very difficult to falsify because they leave a paper trail.
HubertManne@piefed.social 1 month ago
as someone said mailin is paper and im not sure if its still a thing because I have been doing mailin but in my state you could choose the electronic that had a paper trail reciept that showed all your selections as you went or the old hanging chad type.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Depends on where you live. Civilized places still use paper ballots, because electronic ones are practically impossible to get verifiably trustworthy.
Nibodhika@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This is not true at all, it’s much easier to falsify paper votes than it is to falsify any good electronic voting system. This is a fake news perpetuated by people who are finding difficult to falsify electronic voting systems and want to, for example in Brazil the last election held with paper ballots was in 1994, and it has been demonstrated that those results were frauds, one of the elected candidates in that election has been one of the most vocal opposers to electronic voting.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yes it is easier to attack papier voting systems. But these attacks don’t scale. This video by Tom Scott is 6 years old now, but every argument still stands. m.youtube.com/watch?v=LkH2r-sNjQs
mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah, well we aren’t talking about Brazil. My state is all paper. There are multiple audits and there are public observers at every stage. The shit would hit the fan if it was even one ballot off. It’s a super transparent and auditable system.
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 1 month ago
It’s easier to falsify a paper election than a properly implemented digital voting system. Keyword being properly.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Elections require trust. A properly designed voting system can be understood by the average voter. That’s impossible with electronic voting.
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I didn’t even know electronic voting ballots was a thing. My state only has paper ballots.
ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I don’t get it isn’t it expensive ?
Say each machine cost $500 to buy and maintain, multiply that by 30 booths and then tens of thousands of polling stations the costs would be massive.
You can just scan the ballots in to get a quick count and then hand count them later.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Elections are expensive anyway. You either need to maintain thousands of computers or print millions of ballots (assuming nation wide elections in most countries). But the main cost is in the organization. You need to rent it places for the polling stations, set up the booths and the whole infrastructure around it. Security and people checking ID’s. Some of this will be done by volunteers in most countries, but that won’t cover all the costs. In the grand scheme of things I don’t thing electronic vs paper voting matters that much to the total cost of the elections.