An upcoming California law requires operating system providers to enforce basic mandatory age verification

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• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨18⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  i was going to say, this has MICROSOFT stink all over it, or at least palintir.

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• Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Read the legislation. It’s not just operating systems,mit applications as well! All applications, there are no exceptions.

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• RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Gavin Newsom should drop out of politics and stick to shitposting about trump. He’s much better at that.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨19⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    gavin newsom was never effective out of local elections, hes well known for that, HES EVEn worst than biden and kamala.

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  • XLE@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    His intern is, at least.

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Literally

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• Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  standing on a San Francisco street corner, opening my trench coat revealing 40 USB sticks

  Hey kid, wanna buy illegal Linux?

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  • tal@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It doesn’t matter if you’re, say, Debian, because they’ll just put up some symbolic “not intended for use in state X” and then continue doing whatever they were doing, but if you’re Red Hat and actually selling something like Red Hat Enterprise Linux to companies in the state, stuff like this is actually a pain in the ass.

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• MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My Steam account is 21 years old and can now buy alcohol. Does that count?

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  • ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They don’t care. They want your face, retina, fingerprints, DNA. All for their LLMs and so they can sell you something else.

    Also to blackmail you later if they think they can or just feel like it… because they will put all that shit on an insecure server and some 13 year old hacker in Turkmenistan will leak it and make a killing (literally and figuratively) with it.

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    • Archr@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      FYI, I am not a lawyer.

      Have you actually read the bill itself? Nowhere in it does it mention any of the things that you mentioned. It doesn’t even mention ID cards at all.

      What it does say is operating system providers shall “Provide an accessible interface at account setup that requires an account holder to indicate the birth date, age, or both, of the user of that device”. What we should look out for is that the law does not forbid OS providers from requiring IDs.

      It does however require that OS providers “Send only the minimum amount of information necessary to comply with this title and shall not share the digital signal information with a third party for a purpose not required by this title.” (emphasis mine)

      I wonder how much this is news outlets overreacting to a proposed bill that is not actually that bad, or if this is some marketing against the bill by some Corp.

      …legislature.ca.gov/…/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_i…

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    • Eryn6844@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      wrose yet blackmail you with their ai created child pron.

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• timestatic@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Good luck trying to strongarm foss. Forks and backups included. Also making all linux servers illegal. This will totally not be circumvented. Get lost with your law. Let the parents do the parenting instead of overreaching on mass surveillance and trying to end any form of online anonymity.

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• just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This will immediately get struck down in court even if it passes, though everyone should make their voices heard in saying this is complete nonsense.

  Yet another case of antiquated politicians not understanding technology whatsoever.

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  • Archr@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No doubt the law is hopeful and leaves out many details in regards to how such a system could/would/might be implemented.

    But I am not seeing anything in the law that would be unconstitutional. But I’m not a lawyer so what do I know.

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    • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not a lawyer, but deeply involved in the law from the tech side for many years at various deeper levels from the engineering side and bridge to product and so forth.

      It doesn’t need to be unconstitutional to be struck down as the constitution doesn’t cover all laws, especially not state and local laws. All you need to do is prove that the language or intent of the law is either:

      1. impossible to enforce (ex: software processes cannot be patented or controlled/patrolled)
      2. the language is too broad (ex: What is an OS exactly?)
      3. it violates a prexisting law or creates a verifiable conundrum (ex: this would violate California’s own data privacy laws)
      4. it creates an undue tax or burden on existing technology (ex: devices out in the wild can’t be retrofitted to comply, which sort of fits with #1)
      5. it DOES actually violate a constitutional right (ex: 4th amendment)

      Being on my side of things, the legal team would most likely start a case with something like “So you say the OS needs to be locked with age verification. Does that mean every TV, router, public computer, tablet…blah blah blah”, so it’s very likely to get tossed on #1 quite easily because these folks have no idea what an OS actually is, and that every piece of technology you interact with on a daily basis has an OS. The lack of specificity alone would get this tossed in a heartbeat.

      If that failed, they’d argue there is no way to police or enforce this law because sites who rely on this rule existing are putting themselves in legal jeopardy by simply allowing any traffic from California to access their services. What if someone from another state or country is in California and wants to watch porn in their hotel, or play a game with friends on Discord? Police have zero right to verify that any device entering California complies with the law, so the provider of the service would have to be on the hook to do the verification, which means they would just block any device from California that doesn’t meet whatever flag is sent to say it safe. THEN you have the infrastructure that is required to ensure those devices…blah blah blah.

      It’s just a stupid idea by dumbass technically illiterate people. It won’t go anywhere.

      As soon as these idiots figure out what an OS is, this is dead in the water because of the above.

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• toiletobserver@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Lol, get rekt

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