Submitted 1 year ago by AccidentalLemming@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
The Internet’s been ubiquitous for more than two decades now, and the people writing laws to regulate it in most democracies still lack even a high-level understanding about how it and the software they use to access it works. They also seem to go out of their way to avoid working with anyone who actually does know how to implement safety measures in less dangerous or exploitable ways. It’s inexcusable.
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How do they propose to enforce this, when browsers are free and open-source and can easily be downloaded from hosts outside of France?
People that propose this kind of stuff always know nothing about how the internet, or technology in general, works.
In this case Mozilla likely has staff and contributors working out of France. Chances are they make money from there too. Mozilla would either need to forfeit the above or comply if the law is implemented.
Enforcement from decent sized economies can often be as simple as having too much economic power to ignore, which often isn’t that high of a threshold.
I could see Mozilla being forced to comply and then letting it be known that if you delete a certain part of the firefox source and recompile, it goes away.
An ‘unrelated third party’ would do it
I don’t think they can be forced to comply. Even if they have a local office they can just leave and tell Macron to fuck off. The government will probably force ISPs to block Mozilla’s website (at DNS level because politicians/idiots) and nothing will actually change.
The real shit would be if the EU wanted this…
WTF?! „… force browser providers to create the means to mandatorily block websites present on a government provided list.“
Today it’s some terrorist / pedophile / fraudulent site, tomorrow it could be some opposition, news or whatever could be disliked site on that list.
How is this different to saying “No meetings of groups of people in person to share thoughts, views, agree trades or have an argument”? Happens in the pubs every night.
Fuck you France
No, fuck this mf government. As if french would want that crap.
Knowing how Frensh people just like to be disruptive and annoying i can see at least some liking it for exactly that reason.
But yes fuck the French government.
Is Mozilla 100% forced to comply with this? What’s to stop them from dropping their French presence and keep serving the browser unaltered on the public web? Do they also then get added to the ban list?
The motive behind this is alarming and worrying, but the mechanism of action seems shoddy and not thought out at all.
The result of this should be all of these businesses abandoning France as a market.
More and more it looks like we would be better off of we restricted American companies from operating overseas at all.
I assume that Edge, Safari and Chrome will happily comply (sadly)
How many times did internet petitions actually changed something
In this case they can create an indication of popular support that opposition politicians may be motivated to use.
What happened to parental responsibility?
Chromium browsers: “this is fine, stock market is best market”
How long till other countries try to implement it?
If i was a hacker, i would penetrate their system ( shouldn’t be that hard as most if their operating system are old, and supervised by even older persons and methods), deface their website to inform the population, and ask to take back their ideas as a ransom for not divulging some weird shit they must have on their computers.
Don’t let your dreams be dreams
Jesus France is really just fucking over their people aren’t they?
This government is getting dumber every day. Goddammit.
Can’t wait for the next government to get even dumber.
So the french govt is too lazy to censor on its own.
veloxy@lemm.ee 1 year ago
What the fuck is with everyone’s obsession, government or company, to moderate the web. It’s seriously depressing and exhausting.
refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Authoritarian tendencies since the web is a bit too close to providing its users with freedom of speech.
ghostdog@lemmy.world 1 year ago
for real. it’s been extremely disconcerting watching both companies and nations erode and distort privacy norms so blatantly in the past few years. i’ve never really been a paranoid person, but it’s starting to feel like a coordinated effort to cut the metaphorical brakes so that when we approach the next digital privacy rights crossroad, we are completely unable to exert any control over the direction that society moves.
it used to be that i would hear about an attack on digital privacy once every year. now it seems to happen almost daily. it’s exhausting and worrying all at once.
refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
I think the exhaustion is kind of the point. They want to desensitize us so that they can implement these changes with little pushback.
grue@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It could be that you’ve become more informed lately.
I feel like the situation has been deteriorating at a relatively steady pace for at least a couple of decade, if not two.
TwoGems@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Don’t be exhausted. We can fight back
echo64@lemmy.world 1 year ago
facisim is on the rise again, that’s all.