Submitted 3 weeks ago by over_clox@lemmy.world to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
Example: As far as sports go, I’m in the 3rd mentioned category, I don’t give a shit which side wins, and I don’t even bother watching.
And those that are not in full support of a cause, neither fully opposed to it; but would rather see a more nuanced approach to the cause. As for the sport example: I initially don’t care for sports either; however have learned to appreciate some sports because I took the time to understand their intricacies.
Oh I do appreciate some sports, more particularly single player sports where the only one you’re really challenging is yourself. I happen to enjoy BMX flatland, and have lots of respect for anyone that can participate, regardless of their skill level.
Other examples might be like tree or rock climbing, parkour, even ballet dancing. But when it comes to team sports, one team against another, I just don’t get it. But it’s cool, I get that many people enjoy watching team sports and all, but I don’t see the joy unless you’re actually participating, not just a mere spectator.
Anyways, weird side note, ‘nuanced’ isn’t exactly part of my regular vocabulary, so forgive my ignorance as I had to look it up. I gathered the general definition to an extent, but what the hell does that have to do with peanuts?
Wow that definition is garbage, you weren’t kidding. I would define the concept of “nuance” as the idea that not everything is black and white, and that there are often shades of gray in between.
For example, the question “is paper valuable?” depends a lot on the paper. Paper money, absolutely. Blank printer paper, yes but very much less so. Scrap paper that is rotting, almost certainly not.
As a result, the answer to the question “is paper valuable?” is much more nuanced than a simple “yes” or “no” answer can provide.
In team sports, I suspect the dynamics between different players, and their inventiveness to outperform the opposing team, is what creates an interesting match; it’s quite strategic really. Team sports I enjoy most are: ice hockey (got to love the obnoxious truck horns and organ music haha), curling (the weird sport with the brooms: which affect the trajectory and placement quite a bit), doubles tennis (especially when front players duel intensively and the back players providing support).
If Alice argues all should be black, and Bob argues all should be white, Carol may add further context to the argument: creating a grey area if you will. In this case: Alice could argue all team sports suck, Bob could argue all team sports are great, and Carol may argue things are bit more “nuanced” than that: taking into consideration, both her interest in curling and her aversion to narcissistic soccer players, dropping themselves to the floor; like every 10 minutes.
Just Cause!
No Cause!
What Cause?
There are those that don’t understand a cause and yet oppose changed to status quo.
Anti-CCP?
Mom: “The nationalists are gonna attack you” “Are you trying to get us banned from going back to China / arrested in China?”
Anti-trump?
Mom: “The fbi is gonna knock on our door and I will disown you”
I also don’t care who wins at sports. I’m only planning to watch the Superbowl to spite the nazis by supporting Bad Bunny
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Pretty good showerthought, NGL. And yes, likewise about sports teams, what meaningful connection do I have with these people? Lol. I’d get it if your brother played for the team, or you had money on them winning, but if not the outcome it’s just inconsequential, right?
But then you see all these people in love with their preferred teams, crying even, and I’m like “why?”, and if this is how you feel about some strangers good at moving a ball, did you have a heart attack from happiness when you got your first kiss? Did you have to be resuscitated when you learned your wife was pregnant? Usually, from what I’ve seen, they didn’t, but they did have all these feelings for these random groups of people. 🤷
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Jerry Seinfeld had a bit where he says it makes no sense to root for a sports team because the players change, the strategies change, everything changes. All you’re rooting for is the uniform. And if I guy changes teams, then you liked him one team but suddenly don’t like him cause he’s wearing a different shirt. I don’t know how accurate that assessment is because I don’t care about sports
aMockTie@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
My understanding is that these experiences with sports are very similar to the equivalent of religious experiences. Both have songs, chants, and rituals. Both provide a sense of belonging and community. Both have an in group and an out group. Both highly revere influential figures, both past and present. Both have clearly defined enemies. Both follow a regular yearly schedule, with important dates throughout the year.
Most of those attributes can also be applied to a wide variety of human interests. I would be very surprised if those who didn’t share any particular interest weren’t also confounded by the intensity of some of those engaged in that interest.
On an unrelated note, it’s good to see you again friend. It’s been a “long” time eh?
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s only superficial though, and completely circumstantial (I was born here so this is my team, or this is my dad’s team, idk). Sure, many people who consider themselves religious also don’t believe in anything actually and just go along with the rites and like to be part of a larger group (whatever the group is or stands for is inconsequential, I guess, just like in sports) because they’re silly people. I just couldn’t, I’m not ignorant enough not to recognise it’s completely shallow and meaningless. Like, what does it mean to be to support different teams when, in the end, we both love football? And again, I have IRL enemies such as Zionists, general imperialists, rapists, etc, because we fundamentally disagree on the basis of morality but when it comes to football how does that apply? You like football, I like football, we both like football, it just so happens that I was born in this city and you were born in yours! We don’t disagree on anything, we just want this team or this other one to win because of whims and habit. But if, for example, the average American experiences and processes belief the same way they do football teams, I guess that explains a lot, lol.
And hi! 🤣