Judge orders Anna’s Archive to delete scraped data; no one thinks it will comply

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• aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hey judge, order AI companies to delete THEIR illegally-scraped data.

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  • db2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Couldn’t they make an argument with that pointing out that they’re being unjustly targeted because they’re smaller and easier to pick on?

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    • SolacefromSilence@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No one cares if they're small or unjustly picked on. If they want to beat the charges, they need to announce their own AI trained on the data.

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  • evol@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    rebrand into Anna AI !

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• adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Defendant crashed its website, slowed it, and damaged the servers, and Defendant admitted to the same by way of default,” the ruling said.

  OK, so if I set up a lawsuit against OCLC in my country where they don’t reside, and they fail to show up to contest the charges, I get to claim they admitted guilt by default?

  Also, since the claim is they used bots that behaved like legitimate search engine bots, are they also suing Google?

  I can see why they might not want AA putting undue stress on their servers, but that doesn’t seem to be what they’re suing over.

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  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    OK, so if I set up a lawsuit against OCLC in my country where they don’t reside, and they fail to show up to contest the charges, I get to claim they admitted guilt by default?

    Assuming your country’s laws are roughly based on British common law, yes.

    Winning a case is easy. How you enforce the judgement is much harder.

    This is why the speculation is that they will not comply. If the servers are not in reach of the US, the owners are not in a country that will extradite them, they don’t store money in US banks and the US doesn’t stupidly commit war crimes in order to capture them… then ignoring the court order is about as hard as you ignoring North Korean law.

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    • elmicha@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But the US can impose a few inconviniences on you:

      “You lose immediate access to all the main credit cards that go through the Swift system, which is controlled by the U.S.,” she said. “My Amazon and Google accounts were closed. You cannot pay for your utilities, your subscriptions. You’re completely crippled when it comes to booking hotels, trains, flights. You can’t buy dollars because your name is flagged.”.

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• fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And they shouldn't.

  I'm sorry but it is completely fair game now for piracy to be as it is.

  You're illegally collecting data on us in every tech we have? Fine, but we're pirating your shit and you're going to like it.

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• MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Eh, their crawler is “AI”, so it’s fine.

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• Ugurcan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Anna’s Archive’s data is on IPFS, so effectively it’s pretty hard to remove the data from the nets. Good luck to the establishment though!

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• jasoman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Just say it is for Ai training then it will be ok.

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• bytesonbike@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The court order, which was previously reported by TorrentFreak, was issued by Judge Michael Watson in US District Court for the Southern District of Ohio. “Plaintiff has established that Defendant crashed its website, slowed it, and damaged the servers, and Defendant admitted to the same by way of default,” the ruling said.

  US court. Where is Anna’s Archive located?

  Because with the state of America right now, every country should be giving the US Courts the finger. We’re pretty much a rogue nation now.

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• dil@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Jokes on them, tiktok killed my attention span and I can’t read ebooks anymore

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