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The regulations go further by targeting those who provide space for such activity.
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This would make far more sense if they didn’t still allow smoking.
Like. What the actual fuck.
You allow the deadly deadly thing and come down hard on the safer alternative.
Anyway I was in Vietnam recently and vaping was still illegal when I was there but I had no issues camping anywhere.
This can only be because of tobacco industry lobbying.
One more country to list of countries I won’t visit for work or holidays.
Oh dear, I guess we’ll have to deal without one more stinky cracker.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Jesus that’s messed up
thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
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unknown@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Isn’t that Kyle Rottenhouse? This reads like you’re on Rittenhouse’s side with an anti vaping on babies view.
So not only is your meme dumb and using a picture of a violent far right idiot as the supposed ‘correct’ side of this strawman, you are also a shitty parent for apparently not moving your own baby out of someone’s vape cloud and instead starting a fight with a loser blowing vape clouds on a baby.
kungen@feddit.nu 3 weeks ago
They’re much less harmful than cigarettes. But we don’t know long-term stuff, especially with all the different product blends that exist. But I agree, it should be legal to vape where it’s legal to smoke.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Yeah your statement doesn’t contradict mine, as far as we know they are harmless. But we also know really well too, these things have been studied up and down since the 90s and still nothing was really found.
The *blends" thing idk about, the only ingredients out there that go into vape juice are VG, PG, nicotine and flavouring, there aren’t any legal variations on that, this is usually pretty well regulated in the first world.
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Just because we don’t know the long term stuff doesn’t mean there is harmful long term stuff.
Doesn’t mean there isn’t either.
That’s the thing about not knowing.
The evidence on the short and near term stuff does suggest it’s orders of msg tide safer than smoking though.
Which doesn’t mean harmless.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I don’t know about them being harmless, but they’re way less harmful than cigarettes.
It’s a perfect is the enemy of good kind of thing. Less people are smoking cigarettes, which is good. But they are using vapes so it isn’t perfect. So let’s make some laws to make things perfect!
Either the law isn’t followed and people still vape, or it is “successful” and people go back to smoking cigarettes. People are going to do things that are bad for them. Better to have them do the lesser of two evils.
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I was with you until your brick-stupid take on porn.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
That’s just an example.
I do find myself subconsciously judging pornography creators and consumers, but I would never express such a thing nor act upon it as if it’s the truth.
I’m not so stupid as to think that just because of a personal distaste in my subjective preference that it is somehow objectively bad or harmful, much less that any action should be taken based on something as vague as my own vibes. I’m not a bigot, and I try my best to not trust my “gut” and to think rationally instead.
That, to me, is simply being rational, something that is in short supply nowadays.