Submitted 3 hours ago by ugjka@lemmy.ugjka.net to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
… is the ram used in data centers even compatible with desktop PC. I hear a lot “cheap ram when bubble bursts”
The RAM that has been sold will not be viable for desktop systems, but especially with manufacturing capacity build up, you’d have memory vendors a bit more desperate to find a target market for new product. Datacenter clients will still exist but they could actually subsist on the hypothetical leftovers of a failed buildout, so consumer space may be their best bet.
I’m assuming RAM factories are investing in new production lines to meet the increased demand. This means there should be ample capacity to spare when demand decreases. That’s the ideal time to purchase those 500 GB of RAM for all your Chrome tabs.
The plan is that when interest rates rise again, investors won’t have access to cheap loans and AI companies won’t be able to build more data centres. This should lead to a demand collapse and manufacturers being left with surplus capacity. I doubt they can reduce production quickly enough, so they’ll likely push cheap products onto the market for a while.
No. Its ecc ram and most PC motherboards aren’t compatible with it. If it crashes we might have cheap GPUs and cheap cloud gaming.
Those of us running home labs will have a field day upgrading our own servers.
Unfortunately not even then. Nowadays the GPUs are a pretty alien form factor, usually not pcie cards. SXM and now HGX.
Datacenter gear has resembled consumer systems less and less after a period of getting closer in the 90s and 2000s.
The datacentre GPUs are also useless for consumers. They don’t have video output.
If it bursts we’ll get a lot of data centers looking for something to do. And RAM prices will come down but … What’s causing the bottle neck right now is that your average RAM factory needs a couple of years from designed to built to working. So the supply is limited right now while the demand is high. While us end users can’t use the data center gear, in a pinch they could use ours. So the bottle neck gets tighter. So if the bubble collapses, supply will increase and that will bring prices down. If it bursts about two years from now, all the hastily built RAM factories will churn out cheap RAM. But none of this is guaranteed, not the busting and not the dead cheap prices. Because the demand for RAM will not drop off a cliff, it will most likely decrease slowly. All this processing power in post-burst idle data centers will find a way to be used - with what I do not know. There will still be a higher demand for RAM compared to pre-ChatGPT times. So RAM will not flood the market, we will just return to a relative equilibrium of the market.
I wouldn’t count on it anytime soon. The data center build out is a years long process, and even after they get built, their owners will want to use the initially installed hardware for as long as possible before upgrading.
Expect demand for new RAM to remain higher than it was before the AI datacenter build out began. Maybe not as high as it is right now, but some degree of increased demand will be permanent due to the increased count of datacenters that will eventually want to replace their obsolete, worn out hardware.
There might eventually be a larger supply of used RAM on the market, but a lot of it might not be compatible with mid-shelf consumer grade motherboards.
MurrayL@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
If/when the bubble bursts we’ll have bigger problems than the price of RAM.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
If it hurts the world wide economy collapses, because most “wealth” is loans against stock, which are then invested in stocks driving the price up.
I think we’re past a trillion sunk into the ponzi scheme just in AI stock, but if it goes down banks call in their loans triggering automatic sales of whatever collateral they used.
Billions and billions being sold automatically regardless of price would cause cascading crashes…
But if it works…
Corps can fire the majority of their employees and starving desperate people turn to Mad Max after a few consecutive missed meals.