Do you guys know how awesome a printer is that is just working?

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de⁩ to ⁨3dprinting@lemmy.world⁩

I am sorry for all the people having problems, but my Prusa mjni is finally just workjng and happily printing all the stuff I throw at it. Its been having issues here and there forever. I just figured out that the hotend has not been assembled correctly (heatbreaker to nozzle seal was weak) which became a greater issue when switching to a 0.25mm nozzle. Now after I fixed it, it is just awesome :)

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Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
My Ender 5 performs very well after replacing everything but the frame.

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PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
People will pile on me and say that it’s not the best choice if you value privacy but I’ve never had an issue with my Bambu P1S I’ve owned a total of 3 printers and they all had issues with something except for the P1S. Hundreds of print hours, as reliable as the day I got it.

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- CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I’m so right there with you and know several people in the same boat. We all got so sick of tinkering and still having a high percentage of failures to the point that it became a chore, but now its as simple as slicing and waiting.
  
  I’ve put 2800 hours on my X1C in the last 18 months and have had to do only one repair and have had maybe 10 failed prints mostly from adhesion issues. It’s been good enough that I’ve been able to create a side hustle and just bought a P1S during the Black Friday sale to pump out more volume.
  
  I’m not exactly happy about their recent changes but even if you don’t like Bambu, you have to hand it to them for knocking the ball out of the park and forcing everyone else to match their quality.
  
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- Bronzie@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Same, so much so that I swallowed my pride and bought a H2S as well. The P1S has just been a champion since day 1. Zero issues, perfect prints.
  
  I hate the direction they are moving in, but having a partner means compromises must be made. It needs to be fire and forget every single time.
  My dream is to have a RatRig in the future that I can tinker and play with, but for now it’s happy partner or no printer in the house.
  
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  - icelimit@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Or printer of choice and no partner to tie you down!
    
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- QuarterSwede@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I went with the Creality K1 because it was cheap, people can’t figure out a simple 220V/110V selector and it ships by default at 220V (god Mac.bid is so addictive). Getting an enclosed printer/appliance with 3 screws really turned the hobby into the one I wished it was when I started with the Ender 3 Pro. It prints perfectly every time and fast.
  
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- bbuez@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Is the nozzle change proceedure as intensive as I hear? I’ve got a prusa mini and xl, as well as some modded ender 5 and 3, but I’m brand agnostic in expanding my fleet
  
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  - CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    On the P1S its a couple of connectors and two Allen screws (assuming you have a fully assembled hot end to swap in). On the X1C its the same but three connectors. The new P2S is coming with a quick swap nozzle feature which would definitely be worth it if you plan on buying one of their printers.
    
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- Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  My A1 Mini damaged 2 plates the stock textured and high temp smooth, when I first got it by freezing and locking up. A firmware up date has appeared to have fixed the issue. It’s been a year since it last happened, but I still don’t fully trust it anymore. Bambu makes decent hardware, poor software, and has dubious business practices.
  
  On the other hand, my 7 year old Prusa Mk3s has never had an issue that wasn’t directly traceable to me. Even after converting it to run Klipper, it’s still every bit as solid and a tank that might not be quite as fast the Mini, (though Klipper and the input shaping has pushed the print speeds to over 100mm/^sec^), it’s the printer I trust to still be using 10 years from now.
  
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empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I do, and it’s one of the reasons I bought a Bambu (pre-lockdown shit of course). Despite not having many hours, the prusa mk3’s my college had in their makerspace were CONSTANTLY having issues and were a lot harder to get successful prints off of. I got an x1c when i got real money after graduating and it’s given me 1200 hours of zero maintenance except grease and a couple belt tension resets.

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- TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I must admit I love my P1S. It makes me torn, I don’t like the locked down nature of the firmware and slicer, but at the same time, their stuff is damn good for its price.
  
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- stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I suspect the Prusa issues were because you had a bunch of people not taking care of the machines. My Prusa Mk3S was just as reliable as my Bambu P1S.
  
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  - empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    That was part of it for sure, but even on the machines we reserved specifically for experienced users and were personally maintained by myself just had myriad issues. Every first layer had to be watched like a hawk. And they were bedslingers so knocking over prints was a semi common occurence too.
    
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Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Just as satisfying when you print something with several parts and the tolerance is right first time. You hear all about people printing several prototype parts to dial in the design. Nothing to make you feel like a design king by first print mic drop.

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- Thorry@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I printed a large complex part once, only to see I overlooked another thing that got in the way of my part. Instead of changing my design and re-printing it (which would take hours), I walked over to the mill and milled off a section of my print so it would fit properly. Plopped it on, fits like a glove, design king status achieved!
  
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JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I used to be an avid modeler, but never got into printing for this one reason. It has to just work. Maybe the hobbyists are ok with troubleshooting, tweaking and fettling every little issue that emerges, but some of us just want to get (our) stuff done.

For that reason, it’s easier to just pay to get it done. But the whole idea of ‘click and print’ isn’t yet the reality.

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- TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  It’s getting closer and closer. A good modern printer is largely fire-and-forget. Still takes some know-how, but far less than it used to.
  
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MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
You mean a copy shop?

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nesc@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
No such printer exists. Unless everything you are talking about is plain PLA with limited number of colours from the same company, everything else will require you at least some experimenting and fiddling.

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- FBJimmy@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Not my experience. I’ve had my X1C for a year now and have not had to ‘dial in’ a single thing.
  
  Most of my prints are functional items in PETG of various colous. Some PLA for cosmetic parts. And I did some things in TPU earlier in the year. Probably been through like 10kg of filament on it.
  
  Can’t think of a single serios print failure that wasn’t human error - e.g. forgot to clean the bed, didn’t support it properly.
  
  My one gripe is that when changing PETG reels, it doesn’t always manage to wipe the nozzle very well leaving a few rogue stringy bits that usually just pull off.
  
  And obviously I don’t love the closed-wall software situation, but their software is pretty good.
  
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  - CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    I just bought some of these to replace the wiper and they seem to work well so far, but I’ve only got a few prints on them so far. th3dstudio.com/…/bambu-x1-p1-upgraded-nozzle-brus…
    
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  - nesc@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    I print a lot and on different printers, mostly petg, some abs and tpu. All of them require some configuration unless you are extremely lucky or print with filament from the same brand as a printer. Bbl (including x1) isn’t better or worse in this regard in my experience.
    
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cepelinas@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I have had the opposite experience. My mosfets died O think the control circuitery on my btt skr mini e3 v2 so I decided to control them externally with a pico ordered it from aliexpress it showed up then it died. Later I bought a genuine pico and it also died… That’s how my printer isn’t working for 27 days straight.

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- Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Have you tried an exorcist?
  
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  - TheHotze@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Or apeasing the machine spirits.
    
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  - cepelinas@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    It is an anet a8 there is no helping it. Until all parts are replaced.
    
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grill@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
My bambu a1 mini is as plug and play as you can get probably. Working great for over a year. Printing mostly PETG, and sometimes TPU and PLA.

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bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Pony up for something expensive like a Bambu or embrace the tinker

'tis the way of things

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flynnguy@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I have an ender 5 which I’ve had to do all sorts of things to. I’ve also had terrible luck getting z-probes to work with it. They’ll work for a while and then just die on me…

A while ago I backed the Phrozen Arco on Kickstarter. It was a mess of a compaign but I eventually got the printer (Over a year and a half late). However it’s just worked and makes nicer prints than my ender 5. I love it so much. My makerspace has a Bambu which seems to have the same results. I love just printing something and having it work and not having to fuck with the printer. It’s been so nice.

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ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I spent a decade or so building my own reprap printers from scratch before I ever bought a printer.

You have no idea.

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PetteriPano@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
My original Průša i3 mk0 has been going for 11 years now. It did receive a mk1 upgrade at some point when 3mm filament was getting scarce.

The IEC heatbed connector melted twice. But it’s been solid since I replaced it with an XT60.

Looks like I’m finally getting some metal fatigue in the heatbed temp sensor. I’m considering a new printer. The rest of the components are probably close to giving out after all these years.

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mechanismatic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
It’s especially nice to eliminate machine issues so you know that subsequent print issues are due to modeling problems or orientation while slicing or something else.

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thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
my mrk3+ needed some mods and a little tinkering but it’s always ready to go now. Prusa for life

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hansmoleman247@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I had a few Enders and it was fun to mod and mess around with to make it work better. Upgrading boards, firmware, hot ends, ect.

But as I got older and free time became more and more rare I picked up a used Bambu A1 mini off marketplace with a ton a of hours. I heard the hype so I wanted to take a chance. The A1 I got had like 900 hours on it mind you, it worked flawlessly! Almost little to now tweaking on it to get it to work.

A year later I just ordered a P1S with ams which I just got. So far out of the box it’s been great no messing around at all.

I will say having the ender makes you appreciate how great some of the higher end products are. And also prepares you how to fix things that may pop up vs buying something turn key that just works.

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Snafucode@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
My Mini has also been fantastic! I’ve been running it for about a year with almost no issues, primarily printing petg. Far more reliable than my last two Enders which surprised me. I also just recently upgraded my extruder, heat break and nozzle with Bondtech equipment, which has produced some great results.

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