Python Foundation rejects $1.5M grant with no-DEI strings

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• bluesocks@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Good.

  I’m glad that the people offering this money did not compromise on their ideals.

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• MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Now this is concerning. FOSS is diverse by default, because of the international nature. They noted that FOSS software can be a viable alternative to the easily controllable IT giants, which is why they want to nip in the bud this way?

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• pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I get that hiring practices should not discriminate, but in practice, what I have seen is the opposite of meritocracy. My company had many DEI hires, and they were the first to go when the money got tight.

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  • Chozo@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I feel like you may not understand what DEI actually is. What, precisely, do you think a "DEI hire" is?

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    • pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “DEI hire” has a different definition depending on whether you’re talking about design or implementation.

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  • PunnyName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What meritocracy? A bunch of white dudes born into privilege that allows them the opportunities that the average person doesn’t have?

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  • morriscox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe they were the first to go because your company didn’t want them around no matter how skilled they might. It seems odd that all of them would be let go. That implies that your company decided to only hire incompetent people because of the color of their skin and refused to hire any minorities that were competent.

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• ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The PSF is (presumably) already required to comply with Federal anti-discrimination laws. Am I misreading the text or does it not actually create any new obligations for the PSF if they were to accept the grant?

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  • Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They would be required to comply with the current administration’s extremely biased and borderline illiterate interpretation of those laws.

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  • tja@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You are misreading. These new obligations would require the PSF to violate those laws

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  • cardfire@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It normalizes the anti-equity principles of the grating party.

    The benefactor had already shown exactly how they treat people that aren’t white Christian men, and it’s up to schools, businesses and organizations like the Foundation to show resistance and inclusivity.

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  • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    a) the wording makes it legally ambiguous what exactly would constitute violating the text. If it just said “comply with anti-discrimination laws,” that would be one thing.

    b) It applies to the whole organization, not just the group accepting and applying the grant, making it very challenging to meet the requirement.

    c) Unlike just about any other grant, the funds can be clawed back in the future if something was violated. This is not normal for a grant, and puts the entire organization’s existence in jeopardy if they suddenly find themselves owing millions of dollars that had already been spent.

    It’s very likely their legal council told them under no circumstances should they accept the terms.

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  • deathbird@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If the article is to be believed there’s also a provision there saying that they cannot engage in any programs that advance or promote DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion). That part’s new, and it’s honestly not well defined. What is DEI? Racial quotas and discrimination? Cultural acknowledgements? Anti-discrimination? All these things have been called DEI. Some of these things have been called the other. Without clarity, the likeliest definition is “whatever annoys the administration”.

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• Toneswirly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Good on ya, Gents.

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• Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Thank God that this doesn’t prevent me from making anti DEI software using python.

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• SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Political commissars will be present at all meetings.

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