Scientists have been studying remote work for four years and have reached a very clear conclusion: “Working from home makes us thrive”

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• jupyter_rain@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If those politicians could read, they would be very angry.

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  • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If those politicians capitalists could read, they would be very angry.

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    • logi@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If those politicians capitalists could read, they would be very angry still not care.

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• floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s exactly why the oligarchs want to shut it down. If ordinary people thrive, they will be less easy to control and to farm for wealth.

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• salacious_coaster@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ruling class, resoundingly: “we don’t care.”

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  • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh they do, “must stop this immediately!”

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• count_dongulus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The article, at least, doesn’t seem to try to define or measure “productivity”. Well no shit people are going to be happier not being forced to go somewhere for some period of time five days a week.

  Am I happier working from home, or having the choice to do so? Sure. Their data strongly backs that. Do I actually get my work done equally well? For me personally yes but anecdotally group decision-making in remote contexts is much slower.

  The research here is ultimately pointless, because it drives zero action to the people who would be deciding WFH policy who are making that choice based on business goals, not personal goals. It might inform politicians if they’re driving policy to promote remote work, but without data about productivity tradeoff or lack thereof, there’s no informed decision to make.

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  • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Those studies have already been done, this is yet another study with the same outcomes. People are happier and more productive working hybrid and WFH.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrobinson/2022/02/04/3-new-studies-end-debate-over-effectiveness-of-hybrid-and-remote-work/

    Two studies in early 2022 validated the views of remote/hybrid work advocates. Research from Owl Labs found that remote and hybrid employees were 22% happier than workers in an onsite office environment and stayed in their jobs longer. Plus, remote workers had less stress, more focus and were more productive than when they toiled in the office. Working from home led to better work/life balance and was more beneficial for the physical and mental well-being of employees.

    Now the actual results will vary from person to person and some jobs require some level of in person interaction for a variety of reasons including personal preferences for communication.

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  • mrbeano@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Right?! I agree with the vibe, but I was hoping for more detail, a link to the study, etc… But the article just ends with this incredibly vague statement and no sources:

    “This article is based on verified sources and supported by editorial technologies.”

    🤷‍♂️

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    • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When I see this type of thing my default assumption is the actual source is ChatGPT. The article is attributed to “the editorial team” but that link just goes to a list of other articles and credits no-one. But somehow they’re putting out like 20 a day, all of them similarly lacking sources or authors, and only linking to other articles on the same site.

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  • sj_zero ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I appreciate this as a balanced take.

    I've done a little work from home, and it's nice being home, but it's still work. If you're doing your job right, it's still your job.

    Unfortunately, I've also seen that while some people are great at WFH and even do better, a lot of people either don't get anything done, or look very "productive" because they're harassing people still at work with meaningless busywork like sending emails that don't do anything or asking other people to do parts of their job they'd be able to do if they were at work.

    I think that partially goes to the point of "what is productivity?" since someone can look busy but not be doing anything that actually does anything positive for either boots on the ground micro views or mile high macro views. "Oh, look at how many emails got sent" great, did that actually help the business run? And sometimes the answer is "yes, and we should let this WFH worker continue at all costs", and in others the answer is "No, and we need to get this person into the office or eliminate the position because either would be better than the status quo"

    It's a bit managerial in the way to look at it, but in order to justify WFH, the people working from home must be providing enough value to justify their employment, because too much overhead waste and the business ends, maybe every business embracing WFH ends, and then all that's left is the ones that didn't. To be clear, that's not a moral stance, but a purely pragmatic evolutionary stance: Those things which survive continue and those that die do not.
• Paradachshund@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Thrive? That sounds like commie talk! Get 'em back in the office ASAP

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• Chais@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This article is based on verified sources and supported by editorial technologies.

  Well then, list the sources, you twits. Also “editorial technologies” sounds suspiciously like “AI”.

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• rrrurboatlibad@lemdro.id ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Anyone have a link to the actual study?

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  • ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    …Right?

    “This article is supported by verified sources and supported by editorial technology”

    Cool… So if those sources are verified you won’t mind sharing them with me?

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    • loonsun@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Maybe it should be a rule for this instance that any post about a study must have the proper citation

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• x00z@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But how would my boss and project manager continue to make my life miserable? It would take away all their power over me. They wouldn’t be able to manipulate me into submission anymore. I would be my own person and not an empty shell that can be shaped into whatever they want. I’m sorry but it just seems unreasonable to work from home and be happy.

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  • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m WFH and my boss makes me miserable a lot.

    But at least I’m not wearing pants.

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• boboliosisjones@feddit.nu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I prefer working from my office. I don’t want everyone to be forced, however.

  I like my colleagues, my boss is nice and we collaborate better together on site.

  However, if I didn’t like my colleagues or my boss I would probably want to work from home full time. Or if I had an expensive or time consuming commute (10-15 min bicycle ride currently)

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  • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I like my boss and colleagues, but we have an option to work hybrid and working from home 3 days a week is awesome because there aren't any office distractions and I get to do the in person thing for those that need it twice a week. Some people do go into the office every day because that works better for them, and the flexible arrangement works really well for everyone overall.

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    • monogram@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hybrid is the way

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• melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Now we need a genius architect to covert all of that office space into homes for the homeless. That includes changing any laws that would prevent that from happening.

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  • frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s no superhero coming to save you. Bother your local city council yourself, or at least donate to groups who will.

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    • WalterLego@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The fish step is realizing that it’s a possibility. The second step is to create awareness. This person just made it to step two. Let’s cheer them on!

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    • melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well, I don’t need saving, but others do. There is no such thing as a superhero but I agree…there is lots of bureaucracy and administration! Going through proper channels while the world burns is not something I put a whole lot of faith in when the first knee-jerk response to anything is the economic cost. Sometimes the people have to get involved, not the systems (which are decidedly lacking nowadays).

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  • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Converting an office building to apartments isn’t as easy as you think. For example, apartments need firewalls between them, and adding them ain’t cheap.

    Might be easier to rezone and demolish, but the timelines on that are huge and there’s already a labor shortage in the construction industry.

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    • melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I didn’t think it was easy and there are always naysayers, no matter what.

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• individual@toast.ooo ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  working does not make us thrive

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  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Having a purpose makes us thrive. In some cases, it could be work.

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    • individual@toast.ooo ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      nah

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• fodor@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The almost equivalent claim is that going to work sucks. This second claim is perhaps more instructive.

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• leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Now imagine: being home without working!

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• kokesh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I used to work for 4 years from home. My productivity went down, I was distracted all the time. I would never do that.

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  • lemmyadminskys@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sounds like a you problem.

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  • mrbeano@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sorry, I’m your opposing data point. Very productive from home! We cancel each other out statistically.

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  • BeefandSquints@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have worked from home for four years as well. Because I have self control, it has been amazing. It sounds like you need a babysitter, not a job.

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    • boboliosisjones@feddit.nu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A bit harsh maybe on someone for enjoying to work in a different way than you?

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  • Eq0@literature.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Me too. Seriously hit my mental health because I was feeling so isolated. Even just two days a week from the office was better, the best for me personally is 4 days in the office, one or half from home.

    My criticism towards most WFH set ups is that it erodes the unity of workers, making it easier for managers to pick on them. You end up knowing your coworkers less and therefore working less as a team.

    • again, my personal experience.

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    • zergtoshi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mandatory WFH isn’t as good as optional WFH.
      After all it’s being able to choose, what makes most people with “WFH option” happy and thriving.
      It sounds like you have found your balance between office and WFH. Now find a workplace that allows living that balance!
      All the best!

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• BradleyUffner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wait, we’re thriving?

  Working from home makes life sufficiently better, but that’s a pretty low bar.

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• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But people with money and power lose a miniscule amount of both so the slaves will continue to commute

  Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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