Submitted 2 weeks ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to globalnews@lemmy.zip
Pro-Palestine organizers credits “how the movement for Palestine has intervened,” for seismic shift in public opinion
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The other 40% is somehow still completely unaware of reality.
58 percent say they have some or a lot in common with Israeli Jews.
Since many members of various social groups and political movements have an “It’s ok when our guys do it” philosophy, is there follow-up data as to who thought “Yes, they did war crimes and they were the good/bad kind of war crimes”?
Or rather separate the question “war crimes were committed” from “the war should be stopped now” vs “the war should be stopped when Hamas has lost”.
40% of jews in the UK are assholes then. I hate this timeline
Okay, but more important than the question of whether they've done it is the question of whether it matters. Canada's got a history of seeing what we now call war crimes as "the Geneva to-do lists", but we seemingly don't hold it against them.
So - does it matter? And why should it matter in this case and not others?
It should matter in all cases. In Canada’s case, it is a historical issue and cannot be undone, whereas this is ongoing and can be changed.
Canada has paid reparations to victims, and many efforts have been made to document and acknowledge the harm done.
While this may well be a case of “too little, too late”, it’s not something many people can see Israel ever doing, especially since most Canadians were unaware of the residential schools until very recently, while the majority of Israelis have made their feelings towards Palestinians very clear.
Another 60% believe the sky is blue. The rest are not sure, too hard to think.
I only know a few that live around here but everyone of them can see it for what it is.
why do we need polls for this?
Because people want to blame the Gaza genocide on Jews instead of holding the leaders and soldiers of Israel responsible.
Jewish hate needs to not be tolerated
I know for a fact war crimes were committed by the allies in WWII.
Also it would be nice to know the exact wording of the question, samples size, margin of error, etc. because that can be relevant. But this looks to be another propaganda site trying to pass itself off as a news site. We can’t expect professional journalism from sites like that.
I agree completely - Washington Post is a propaganda site. Though they did provide a detailed pdf with the full questions and methodology that is linked in this article. washingtonpost.com/…/sept-2-9-2025-washington-pos…
I know for a fact war crimes were committed by the allies in WWII.
And in your mind that makes what Israel is doing completely fine??
Also it would be nice to know the exact wording…
OP already linked the PDF. Here’s a screenshot showing the question:
And here’s one from the referenced Pew survey:
Well it’s like Chief Wiggum saying “I heard there were some crimes in New York” “Oh you admit there’s crimes in New York? That makes you guilty!”
Crimes happen in every city. Crimes also happen in every war. Recognizing that crimes happen in war time has the same significance as recognizing the fact that crimes happen in cities. Feeling like you “got 'em!” because of the existence of crime puts you on the same level as Chief Wiggum. It’s really silly.
Also I need to remind you, holding civilians hostage is a war crime. Hamas has committed a continuous war crime since October 7. Do you go out and protest Hamas? Why not?
I wonder what percent think they didn’t commit wse crimes vs those that are on the fence
That’s it? Damn.
Probably 30% live under a rock and have no opinion
Proof that polling data only queries landlines of people who will actually pick up and skews the data towards older conservative fox viewers. Among my peers who I have pollei it is 100% understood Israel is committing genocide.
I’m friends with quite a few ‘apolitical’ Jews my age and I really don’t think any one of them would admit that. But maybe they’re just particularly conservative.
Does America recognize Jews still?
Not entirely sure what you mean but yes?
This is feeding literal antisemitism
The Jewish population is a diverse set of people who may or may not support Israel.
I guess the Zionists should stop committing war crimes then to stop feeding it.
The Jewish population is not committing war crimes. That is like saying that all Asian people are loyal to China.
I feel the title is a bit disingenuous. The questionnaire didn’t have a “Is Israel committing warcrimes/conducting genocide/starving people” or anything like that. It does contain “Has Israel gone too far?” and “Are you concerned about military killing civilians” for example.
It’s a nice read with graphics.
I retract my statement, didn’t see it referenced two polls
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Unfortunately, the polls in Israel aren’t nearly as generous. If you think the US is drowning in fascist, the Israeli press is a tidal wave of unchecked genocidal vulgarity. People straight up calling for the total extermination of Arab peoples on air and being greeted with applause.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
There’s been anti-war protests in Tel Aviv every weekend for over a year. You’re not going to hear about that on your alternative media that’s working to dehumanize Israelis.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Protests for hostage release, not to stop the war crimes.
markko@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How many of those protests are about Palestinians?
The vast majority of them, and the largest of them, are about saving the “hostages” and opposing Netanyahu.
One of the largest protests so far: thejc.com/…/israelis-protest-gaza-war-netanyahu-w…
Not a single mention of Palestinians.
BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
The protests are for the release of hostages, and explicitly not to end the wars, the people actually trying to stop the war are a tiny minority that was active in giving aid to gaza, and are portrayed by most of the population as terror sympathizers.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Those protests are not about Palestine. It’s insane what’s going on over there…
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sure. And you had people handcuffing themselves to the White House fence protesting the US invasion of Afghanistan as far out as 2012. But these have been a tiny, vocal minority. They’re in no way representative of the public (much less the Israeli media or their corrupt plutocracy).
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
To be fair, our media here in the States is insanely horrible.
I cannot fathom why so many Israelis are acting so evil. I actually don’t know a single Jewish person here that supports the genocide. Those I do now are actually amazingly upset about it.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
For starters, their media is genuinely worse. The politics is just as bad.
en.wikipedia.org/…/Palestinians_as_animals_in_Isr…
So that’s the baseline of discourse, and it goes downhill from there.
I’ve got family up in NYC who continue to insist it’s not a genocide and who will point to Oct 7th any time Israeli war crimes as mentioned.
Of course, this same family will complain about how many fat black women there are on the subway and tell me how they’re having too many kids.
So…
redchert@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
Yet they are already clean wehrmachting israhelli society