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In Praise of RSS and Controlled Feeds of Information

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨BCBoy911@lemmy.ca⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://blog.burkert.me/posts/in_praise_of_syndication/

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s simple and elegant, no matter if RSS or Atom. Easy to parse too.Yet somehow, finding a good rss reader app is like finding a needle in a haystack.

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    • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      After more than a decade of Feedly, I’ve been using Newsblur for the last couple years. I love its filtering feature where I can set some tags or title keywords and just hide all matching posts from that feed - it’s the only thing that made some feeds usable.

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  • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I love the idea of the internet coming to us rather than us going out to the internet. And RSS is an excellent example.

    I want a system that will cache articles, comics, essentially websites and stay on a system until I am ready to read it. Then it will transform into a queue (RSS clients), email, ebook/pdf format, etc…etc… and ill read it. Its easy for server admins (people are not bombarding their systems), its easy for users (get content how they want it to work) and its better for the internet as a whole. Its one of my favorite tech that has not gone away.

    Ive went from google reader, to thunderbird rss, to freshrss on my own system. My phone queues it all up in the morning and in the afternoon at work, where internet is spotty, ill read my pre-downloaded articles. Its a great system.

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    • TechnoCat@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      email is pretty close to the system you mention.

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      • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Id rather subscribe to certain entities instead of having ALL entities being able to send me messages. Every time I have my own mailserver, it gets overwhelmed with spam.

        But yes email as a technology is really close to perfect.

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    • rezad@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      freshrss doesn’t cache images. how do you do it offline?

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      • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Couple different ways.

        It came with my setup script back a year or so ago but https://github.com/FreshRSS/Extensions/tree/master/xExtension-ImageProxy works. Also the caching occurs when it gets transfers over to my phone or client. The client does the heavy lifting. I dont really care after that.

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  • neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is your casual reminder that Lemmy was built to support RSS. Just look for the RSS logo on the top of any community’s list of posts:

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    And for those pining for the old days of Google Reader, I have been a huge fan of Newsblur.

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    • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This is not technical, but I hope Lyric the dog is getting some meat along with “Home cooked meals of green beans, sweet potatoes, carrots, and brown rice”. Dogs require meat, it’s not their fault.

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  • desmosthenes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I ended up building my own ingestor and discovery (finds RSS feeds ancross the web, adds it to a queue for me to review) application with over 15k sources and always growing. I serve the content through a public front end if anyone is interested: startyparty.dev - all articles link out to their sources. all media plays in the app.

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  • jayjayjay@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Kill the Newsletter

    Turns newsletter subscriptions into RSS feeds. Helps keep my inbox clean and is helpful on sites that don’t advertise a feed.

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  • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Come on everyone. Drop your best RSS setup. No wrong answers

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    • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Self hosted FreshRSS, read both on the web client and on NetNewsWire linked to the installation on my phone.

      Built a few feed hydrators for sites with shitty feeds with no content in the feed.

      Not my blog, but a great write up on how to do it: hamatti.org/…/i-built-custom-rss-hydrator-for-bet…

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Capy reader on my phone. Lightweight and filters blacklist out.

      Since i’ve found no readers for shell that just dump the important bits, without ncurses background shenanigans and whatnot, i’ve made my own in 100 lines POSIX shell. It’s kinda slow (500 ms), since it calls multiple times awk per line. Maybe i’ll redo it in python sometime.

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    • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      FreshRSS docker container on my VPS.

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    • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Paying for Newsblur’s hosted version - I need its keyword filtering feature and I like to support small companies :)

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    • hummingbird@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Theoldreader.com on the desktop and gReader Pro on Android. That app is ancient but still works and no modern app comes close to its UI.

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    • Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I use Feeder on android from fdroid. It was like a breath of fresh air going through a list of things I’m interested in, reading articles, and not getting sucked into the comments because there just aren’t any.

      Added bonus, its very limited so there’s no doom scrolling, and refreshing the feed only updates with something new like every few hours. Spend a lot less time on my phone now.

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    • plenipotentprotogod@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      TBH I just use the Feeder app on my phone. Fully self-contained. No account, no server, no middleman of any kind. Just the app.

      I’ve been meaning to set up something more elaborate, but this really does work fine, and I like to mention it in these threads for anyone who’s interested in RSS but thinks it’s a big lift to set up. It can be complicated, but it doesn’t have to be. Download an app and start adding publications that interest you. That’s all it takes to get started.

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      • freeman@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Don’t forget to backup your subscriptions. Its really easy, it just generates a opml textfile, which every other reader could import.

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    • Lem453@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      FreshRSS self hosted. Just navigate to the website in your browser, install it to android via a browser ‘app’. Assign the app to a gesture.

      Now i swipe from the left and my RSS opens. Fully self hosted with no tracking beyond the websites you visit.

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      • TunaLobster@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I installed Read You for my android client. I don’t have the fancy gesture set up though.

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    • BCBoy911@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Akregator on desktop, Read You on mobile.

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    • 001Guy001@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I use Feedbro on Firefox. It allows you to create rules for feeds with specific checks/actions (for example to filter out items that contain specific words)

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    • jarmitage@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      NetNewsWire on iOS has been awesome for years. Free and open source to boot.

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    • stsquad@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I have paid for Newsblur ever since they cancelled Google Reader. I also use elfeed on various emacs instances for project and update feeds of various types.

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    • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      TheOldReader.com

      Free for 100 feeds, although it added a small ad in the home page recently.

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    • mbirth@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      News Explorer on macOS, iOS and ipadOS. Syncs everything, so whatever device you pick up, you can continue reading where you left off. Also supports following people on Mastodon and YouTube channels via RSS.

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      • YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yeah, this has been fantastic. Oh, and it can convert the R-word to a feed. ;)

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    • vodam@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      a pretty basic newsboat setup though i do have a script set to update it every 30 minutes (maybe i could set it to wait longer, i dont need immediate news forever)

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    • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I use it for podcasts, the app is gPodder but doesn’t require a gPodder account. It does have a search function though.

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    • Teknikal@eviltoast.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Mines very basic I just replaced the Google feed using Octopi launcher so a swipe left opens capyreader instead. It’s recent so haven’t put all that much on there just UK headlines some basic tech stuff and the onion of course.

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    • exu@feditown.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Nextcloud News and its app

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  • fodor@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s not ironic, is it? The creators of RSS knew exactly what they were trying to create, as did RSS users, and what the bad alternatives would be like. If you are new to the show, welcome!

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  • gary@piefed.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I love RSS! For the longest time I used Miniflux, and I still have an instance running, but lately I've just been using the Unread app on iOS. That's one of the many great things about RSS: you're not tied down to any specific app or platform, you can pack up and take your feeds wherever you want if you wanna try something different.

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    • Tehhund@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Seconding Miniflux! It’s my main RSS reader. I pay for the hosted version, it’s super cheap and works great. And since it’s simple HTML I can write Greasemonkey scripts to customize it a bit.

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      • gary@piefed.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I love it! Even the built in CSS and JavaScript customization goes a long way. I'm not creative enough to figure out anything crazy with Greasemonkey lol

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  • Rooty@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sadly, a lot of sites have started shuttering their RSS feeds and hiding content behind paywalls. I have to periodically clean my feed and remove dead links.Luckily, there are a lot of sites that basically copy AP and Reuters news verbatim.

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  • FauxPseudo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I stopped using RSS a long long time ago. And then when I left Reddit and found Lemmy, I also restarted my RSS feeds and cleaned up the links. I don’t go there everyday but I do enjoy when I get there.

    But I have asked in numerous places for people’s best RSS links and always come up with zero feedback.

    So let’s try it here. What are your best RSS links?

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    • axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ars technica still supports rss by topic

      arstechnica.com/rss-feeds/

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    • vodam@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      its been a while since i checked out mine, but the ones i do still sometimes read are

      hackernews frontpage: hnrss.org/frontpage low-tech magazine: solar.lowtechmagazine.com/feeds/all-en.atom.xml xkcd comic: xkcd.com/rss.xml oglaf (often nsfw): www.oglaf.com/feeds/rss/ and k6bd (a long comic, highly recommend starting at the beginning): killsixbilliondemons.com/feed/

      they might not be the best for you, though, you should try looking for if the websites you read still have an rss page

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    • whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I tend to go for the fire hose approach with news agencies AP, democracy now, CCN, RT Al Jazeera, BBC, France 24, Fox, common dreams, NPR, pew research, open source post, and a few geographically local sources. Entertainment pbs has a few, tvline, xkcd. Using capy reader.

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      • FauxPseudo@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        by links?

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    • fodor@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Maybe I’m not understand what you’re asking. You want to build a list of feeds to follow, right? To avoid single point failure or censorship, right?

      So stop asking for one link, and start telling us what topics you care about. There is no point in a non-custom list of RSS feeds. You need to start the process yourself.

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      • LSNLDN@slrpnk.net ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If I understand correctly he’s asking for links to sites that have an RSS feed available, to fill up some app like NetNewsWire with good content. I found this hard myself, just getting news sources or whatever, since I think a lot of these sites have disabled any old RSS feeds they used to have to funnel users through their algorithms

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      • FauxPseudo@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If I asked just for the topics I care about then I’m not helping anyone else reading. I’m looking for the quality sources. The ones that aren’t filled with filler. The ones that have the key news stories and the oddball stuff.

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  • commander@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I switched back to RSS sometime ago. Been using Innoreader

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  • The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I set up RSS a few months ago and do enjoy it.

    RSS Guard on PC, Feeder on mobile.

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