Qualcomm unveil the Snapdragon X2 Elite and Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme, the fastest and most efficient processors for Windows PCs

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• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Great, now make them able to work with Linux!

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  • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    for windows PC’s

    “Whoa! This Is Worthless”

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    • warm@kbin.earth ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Its the future of Windows, it allows Microsoft to have more control over the hardware. You will own nothing.

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• DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Too bad software still doesn’t exist in Windows on ARM.

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Uhhhh, not sure what you mean about Linux and ARM. That’s very much a thing.

    Windows is a different story because cross-compilation with the OS libs and utils is necessary, and Microsoft does not push that.

    Running everything in compat mode with translators is kind of defeating the purpose. The way this gets more adoption is Qualcomm OPENING THE FUCKING INTERFACES TO EVERYONE, which they are notoriously against doing. They want everyone to pay a license for fucking everything. So stupid.

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    • DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My wording might have sucked, but yeah, Linux on ARM has plenty of software, excluding Android.

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  • realitista@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I don’t know that this is as true as it used to be. For my standard office-centric use case it’s fine. I just need Dropbox and the office suite. But a lot of windows software has ARM versions now. The only thing holding me back is the lack of an ARM Surface Go.

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    • JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I wish decently powerful small laptops would make a return. I dearly love my 11" MacBook Air and I’m still astounded I can even somewhat use it today for various research and office work, but it could seriously do with an M1 chip and 16GB of memory.

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• muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s hilarious Qualcomm keeps claiming this is their tech. They failed for years to make ARM on pc happen. Then some engineered leave Apple after the transition to M-series chips and make their own equivalent for PCs and Qualcomm, on contract with Microsoft to deliver an ARM chip for windows-powered portables just fucking buys them and clamps their branding on it. There is a HUGE difference between the X series Qualcomm chip and their previous SQ-series science fair trash. The X series are good chips. Their Linux support is lacking but for most users who wouldn’t consider leaving windows even if it gave them cancer these are perfectly fine chips. We need more diversity in the chip market and ARM is great for that. Qualcomm sucks is all.

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• Mistic@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I don’t trust Microsoft to make apps on their OS work as well as on x86. Their support so far with X elite/pro chips was very telling.

  Credit where credit is due, Apple worked hard with other developers to make the transaction to ARM possible. Microsoft doesn’t seem to be bothered to do that much.

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  • simple@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Compatibility improved a lot since release, you can actually run most apps and games on an X elite now

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    • Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Almost do most things you could do that you’ve done for decades, and can still do on a competitor, on a $1500 device is not a selling point.

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  • SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    *transition
    But that's an interesting lapsus...

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    • Mistic@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      fixed, ty

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• sommerset@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If they think I would be running to get android on my desktop they are miscalculated.

  For people to switch they have to be excited about your platform. WTF should I get excited for when they are killing open source android core?

  I should be Excited about the ad company telling me what apps I can install? Fuck u Google.

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• just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Until they open up the software, these are doomed to operate in obscurity.

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• poke@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Fastest? Uhhh, we’ll see about that, I guess. Would be pretty cool, but I have my doubts.

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  • poke@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Okay, outside of the title every time they say “fastest” they follow it up with “at iso power” which apparently means equivalent or same. So they’re basically saying they’re the most efficient twice, but they creatively used the word faster like they are an industry leader in more than one metric when they’re not.

    Also I have a feeling their claims won’t even be accurate if someone installs windows on a recent macbook, which is why I suppose they are also only comparing to windows native devices.

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• humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  NPU

  worthless.

  premium PCs (laptops)

  I understand that it will be power efficient, but premium won’t beat strix halo in performance. Slightly lower memory bandwidth. Mac M3 or M4 is much higher spec’ed.

  we’ll see how they do.

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  • KingRandomGuy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Depends strongly on what ops the NPU supports IMO. I don’t do any local gen AI stuff but I do use ML tools for image processing in photography (e.g. lightroom’s denoise feature, GraXpert denoise and gradient extraction for astrophotography). These tools are horribly slow on CPU. If the NPU supports the right software frameworks and data types then it might be nice here.

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• thatradomguy@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Can’t wait for my next Asus mobo to support this chipset arch.

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• Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Did they mess up? Seemed like any issues they had were Windows related

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  • simple@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That was part of it, but they hyped up the product so much as a Macbook M series competitor and made outrageous claims, including having very optimistic benchmarks. They shot themselves in the foot because any benchmarks compared to the macbook were against them, especially in efficiency. They promised Linux support shortly after launch too but it’s still not fully here.

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    • Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean, that’s how qualcomm does business. For as long as they’ve existed, they’ve made ridiculous comparisons about their newest chip against Apple’s. Fool me once shame on me, fool me twenty times, shame on me again because I should’ve learned 19 times ago

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• network_switch@lemmy.ml ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Qualcomm is too big and we’ll established to be mediocre with day one Linux support

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• simple@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  More info in PCMag’s article

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