EU Chat Control: Germany's position has been reverted to UNDECIDED

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• krebssteven@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I am so happy to see my little luxembourg oppose this authoritarian power grab.

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• NarrativeBear@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I am surprised by Sweden’s Norway and Denmark vote.

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  • migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’ve been reverting a lot of that Nordic socialism due to the usual anti-immigrant rhetoric

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    • Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And a right wing government here in Sweden relying on a far right party to stay in power, all in favor of heavy surveillance

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    • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Social democracy, not socialism

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I‘m not surprised in the slightest given who governs these countries nowadays. They‘re far more right than your average EU country.

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    • Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Weirdly, social democrat Ylva Johansson proposed the first chat control bill.

      sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_Control

      I don’t think it’s fair to blame the right in this case.

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  • themagzuz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    afaik denmark isn’t just in favor, but they’re also responsible for pushing the legislation higher on the agenda after it was dropped last time.
    i think it’s because the current ruling coalition consists of the “social democrat party” (actually just red flavored populist centerish party) in an alliance with the “moderate party” (centrist flavored center-right wing party) and the liberal (as in libertarianism) party (center-right/right/conservative party), so basically denmark has been under a quite conservative government lately, despite the PM selling the coalition as “across the center”

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  • mienshao@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Norway isn’t on this map

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    • hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Norway is not EU

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  • DSN9@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Denmark is trying to pry open their centralized health records database so Palantir can use it 😂, I mean, you know for uh crime and stuff.

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• pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ima be honest, things don’t look good. Europe is our last hope before this shit comes over to America

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  • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It already has yo, just on a state level.

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  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Meshtastic is not included in chat control, right?

    (Inb4 they ban that too lol)

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• njordomir@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The wildest part of this to me is the politicians exempting themselves. It may be different in Europe, but in the US, the politicians are often the child predators this legislation claims to protect against.

  The politicians claim “professional secrecy”, but shouldn’t you be increasingly auditable the more power you are given. Private individuals should have an expectation of privacy. Politicians, and those with power and influence should live in the open to protect from abuses of that power.

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  • Eximius@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is definitely an amount of valid secrecy in positions of power, half of politics would collapse if they couldnt corroborate their eggs in order in their coop. With regards to authority that defines what should be publicly auditable, it’s rather a chicken and egg situation.

    Before I hatch any more puns, generally politician’s privacy at work, or anything related to their position << civilian privacy should be definitely the case

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• artiman@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  isn't the september 12 deadline over

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  • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That was for tabling the vote, actual vote is happening on the 14th of October

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• Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This shit is happening no matter who votes what. It’s been voted on how many times in the past decade? 5+? It’ll always keep coming back until it passes. Might as well do it now rather than later. Same with online ID verification. Just bite the pillow while they’re going in dry, it’s the shortest pain.

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  • Rappe@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I hope you take this in the spirit in which it was meant: fuck you and your defeatist edgy apathy. Refuse and resist until the bitter end.

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    • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Spoken like someone who hasn’t been fighting for 15+ years with NOTHING to show for it.

      I’m just tired. People don’t give a fuck anyway. May it all burn down in nuclear fire soon.

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  • khapyman@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If this comes to pass I’ll just revert to ways of my youth. I’ll spend more times with books and there is no such thing as online communication or SMS or anything.

    I do what I can to not have that future.

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    • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      One Time Pad Lmao

      What’s the government gonna do? Ban numbers?

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    • anon5621@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No actually ,only self host is solution actually and phones with non installed software ,so currently for now phone with lineage os,graphenos or post market is,for desktop is linux distros or haiku or BSD based systems.as tool for communication self host matrix,xmpp,irc,email server

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• sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What did it revert from?

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  • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Opposing

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    • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fuuuuck. This sucks

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• Der_Fossyler@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  digitalcourage.social/…/115214436150954844

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• Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How does this work is it a majority of MEPs form te decision of the entire country?

  I wrote to mine and one came back that they were monitoring it but that child safety comes first. The other emphasised child safety but called out that this is not fit for purpose.

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• pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  estonia is green

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