Congratulations, you’ve been defederated. Please do not resist.
It’s going good so far 🤞🤞
Submitted 1 year ago by TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 1 year ago
TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I really hope it works out as smoothly as this, it feels like advertising sneaks it’s way in somehow though. 😣
callyral@kbin.social 1 year ago
It's not and I'm Lovin' It. The Fediverse I mean. Want to defederate from corporate ads? Just Do It. Have It Your Way and Make Every Second Count.
Really, you just need to Think Different.
Cruxifux@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I haven’t seen any ads thus far on lemmy and it’s pretty great.
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 1 year ago
Corporations are coming, it’s inevitable, but at least this time we won’t have to deplatform ourselves to have a sensible discussion.
GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Someone will try and justify corporate investments. And once they get in, they will infest. They ALWAYS play the long game.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
I agree that they will deliberately try to infiltrate, but corporations are notorious for never playing the long game.
monotrox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
That is why lemmy is decentralized, no one can buy every single instance. and even when a corporation buys the codebase of lemmy, another person can come in and create their own platform that is still compatible
meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 year ago
Are there any corporations on Mastodon? The most popular part of the Fediverse.
matt@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah there is, governments too. It’s not super widespread but they do have a presence.
Due to how federation and anti-viral Mastodon is though, they can’t hijack trends and stuff so a lot will most likely never come.
EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I felt kinda bad for the people who were here when I joined two months ago. They had their own little community which would get quickly overrun by ex redditors. I wasn’t sure if I was a refugee or a colonizer.
meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 year ago
Being a colonizer or a migrant is up to you 😉
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
If peolle want their own isolated communities, those exist elsewhere. You join the fediverse because you expect it to grow and network.
EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I feel like it’s like discovering a hidden place at a lake that’s really beautiful. You can’t really claim it as exclusively your’s but would still very much prefer it if no one else went there, as selfish as that might be
gaybear@lemmy.world 1 year ago
would you love me if I said I was a refugee
pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Ya
unphazed@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Manifest Netsiny?
victron@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Can we stop the gatekeeping and that normie bs, plz ffs
roboticide@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The gatekeeping is especially ironic because they didn’t use this meme template properly, lol. You know, like a “normie”.
UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
How abbout just saying the masses or general public?
Vub@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s certainly starting to show that some people with views who wasn’t here before are starting to arrive. Like people openly trolling, making racist and confrontational comments. Feels pretty bad, it was such a nice haven here.
banneryear1868@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Control measures are inevitable, like account length requirements, etc. I don’t see any way around that to have a usable usergenerated site. A lot of the previous reddit alternatives were full of racism because of who reddit pissed off on the site, but people like that need an audience and they don’t generate good content. The nerds who do always have to deal with trolls.
Vub@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I hope it will be manageable. Heavy moderation is very time- and energy consuming and the people behind the instances today are already under big pressure to keep things in order.
over_clox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
But the real question is…
Which came first, the internet or the troll?
unphazed@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They grew together. Look up the origins of “spam” in university Nets.
rubythulhu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
controversial opinion; I think lots of companies should host lemmy instances for their own support forums.
Questy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think that news organisations should create their own distribution instances. The BBC has started to set up their own Mastodon server. I would definitely prefer to be able to create my own news feed, direct from source, and selected for greater criteria than how many rage clicks a headline is likely to garner.
towerful@programming.dev 1 year ago
Not controversial at all.
There are considerations.
Corporate instances affecting public opinion.
Corporate opinion silencing/moderating public opinion.
All that, and user moderation as well.A company may not like legitimate dissenters, but it might be in the public interest…
Unmoderated, it might turn into a cesspool.
So, who moderates it? AI/AutoMod? And how? What algo? Does that retroactively apply on updates?This happens on actual company forums. Yes.
So, we need 2 lemmy communities per company? Their one, and a public one? What if the public one is being unfair? Who knows about that?It’s tough!
victron@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Oh no, do you even lemmy, bro? That’s reddit talk /s
GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 1 year ago
Different version:
Only nerds with the worst opinions migrate
Only nerds with the worst opinions migrate
Silviecat44@aussie.zone 1 year ago
I hate the word normie
EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
It’s a nickname. His actual name is Normald
sebinspace@lemmy.world 1 year ago
ok normie
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
ok normie
static_motion@programming.dev 1 year ago
I guess it’s easy to think that way if you’re new to online communities.
victron@lemm.ee 1 year ago
A wild condescending reply appeared.
krondo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I dont think you know how this meme works
Noughmad@programming.dev 1 year ago
This is called enshittification, and happens to all platforms.
Meganium97@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
At least this platform has some sort of natural resistance against enshittification, given that no one party can completely dominate the platform without immediately getting squashed by the collective.
itsmaxyd@lemm.ee 1 year ago
One time we thought that Google was a cool startup head on against corporate giant Microsoft 😔
PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Is there a FOSS license that can prohibit code being used for profit over a certain amount?
h14h@midwest.social 1 year ago
No, but there are copyleft licenses that require anyone using a fork of some open-source project for for-profit purposes to subsequently open-source any changes they make.
4am@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lemmy is AGPL. From what I understand, that means anyone running Lemmy (or a fork of Lemmy) needs to make their source code public, even if their code changes are strictly to support their own network infrastructure.
it really doesn’t matter though, as a corporation only needs to implement an interface to Lemmy via ActivityPub protocols; in other words it they could write a completely closed-source backend to use for profit and as long as it can poop out the correct data structures over ActivityPub to allow Lemmy instances to understand it, it will work.
This already happens as we can see and subscribe to kbin magazines, and Mastodon users can be @'d and IIRC can reply to comments via Hoot (or whatever they call it). Kinda wild, but it also leaves the door open to literally whoever.
I think the real interesting question is will a large corporate player be able to maintain a captive userbase? None of the doomsday scenarios play out in their favor unless they can capture users and communities - because then the usefulness of the whole thing rides on their server being available. At that point it’s reddit with more steps - they can do what they want.
Rossel@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
No, that’s against the ideology of freedom. What you can do is dual license with a FOSS and a commercial license.
PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So what happens to both projects that buy into foss to commercial? Are they 2 single licenses then?
zebibit@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Anything that gains too much steam and mainstream attention is ripe for corporate takeover/infiltration. Federation should hopefully keep them at bay for a while.
TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I really hope so, the PR vermin always finds a way to ruin something good. 😣
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
How would that even happen?
Agamemnon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What’s a normie? I don’t think I have seen one yet. /j
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Yeah, but in federated social media you can just pack up and set up a new instance.
You won’t ever need to leave the whole thing behind to disconnect from corporate BS.
TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My concerns the product advertisers attempting to sneak in, bragging or something. It felt rampant on Reddit, so it’s probably left me wary. 😣
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
And if that happens, you can bet your ass there will one day be instance-wide ad-block that auto-block users/instances known for posting ads.
If that becomes a thing, there will be instances that explicitly filter it out.
towerful@programming.dev 1 year ago
Double edge sword. “This guy is shilling” reports go rampant .
Hopefully, the Reddit bot trackers peeps will move to lemmy, and lend us their wisdom.
I learnt so many ways realise a poster or commenter was a bit from those peeps. Amazing MVPs!
And folks like kitboga taught me that spammers/scammers generally stick to a script.
It’s gonna be an arms race! Hopefully we win!
pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Yo I also worry about advertisers attempting to target me with localised advertisements, which is why I use Borg VPN! Nice try, advertisers, but those “hot milfs” are nowhere near near me, ha!
/parody
pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Yeah I could see myself eventually joining a splinter of the fediverse that is even more rabidly anti-corporate than we are right now. Like constantly blocking shills and instances that refuse to do their own aggressive pruning.