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‘Don’t call this racist’: row grows over motives behind England flag campaign

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Submitted ⁨⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Davriellelouna@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨unitedkingdom@feddit.uk⁩

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/20/row-grows-over-motives-behind-england-flag-campaign-far-right-racist

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  • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Put LGBT flags underneath every England flag.

    If they both stay up, the intention is probably positive, supportive, prideful and welcoming.

    If the LGBT ones get torn down… well, there’s a heavy overlap in the Venn diagram between the homophobes and the racists, so I think you can safely assume they’re racist flags.

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  • supamanc@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The thing is, the flag is not associated with racism and hooliganism because a committee sat down and decided. It’s because racists and hooligans do racist and hooligan shit whilst waving the flag. If you want to save its tarnished image, you need to make the racists and hooligans associating themselves with the flag…

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    • dariusj18@lemmy.world ⁨44⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      But then a movement of people not doing that shit while waving the flag would offset the problem, no?

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      • supamanc@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Well then you get to the shit sandwich analogy - it doesnt matter how little shit there is, or how good the sandwich is, you aint eating it!

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  • steeznson@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s weird in Scotland where we have “cuddly nationalism”, you see saltires everywhere. My wife is from England and one of the things she remarked on moving up here was how the St George’s Cross would look mental hanging in all the places the saltire is.

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  • ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Flags: not racist

    Using flags to create an atmosphere of exclusion: likely racist, definitely xenophobic

    Don’t get me wrong, I love a good flag, and the St George’s cross is a great design (esp. When it doesn’t have “England” written on it) but 90% of the people flying the flags are slow witted flag fuckers who are upset that brown people exist in “their” country.

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    • Denjin@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wait until they find out that St George was from Turkey.

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      • monkeyman69@lemmynsfw.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Don’t panic, they never will as it involves reading.

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  • ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m from Northern Ireland, we know a fair bit about flags. They’re pretty much always used to mark territory, and make it clear who is welcome and who is not.

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