Australia to recognise Palestinians' right 'to a state of their own', PM says

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• Rosencrantz23@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Finally. Hope it does some good.

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  • zero_gravitas@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It won’t.

    If they thought it would do any good, then they wouldn’t have the spine to do it.

    We know they don’t have the spine to do anything with any practical effect, because otherwise they would have done it by now. They could have instituted broad trade sanctions, or prevented the export of military goods including F-35 parts and steel armour plating.

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    • Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well, what are the costs of moves like those. I’m working on a moral and humanist calculus, Albanese may be partially working on that, but he’ll also be working from a political calculus.

      The US has made it pretty clear that Israel is their favourite protectorate. If, as you say in another comment, we are owned by the US, then does that mean in the heirarchy of protectorates we are lower than Israel and therefore likely to seriously damage our standing with the US by imposing arms sanctions? And what does that mean for Australian military defence? And technology supply?

      For one thing, we’d have to be ready for massive and disproportionate responses from the fascists in charge in the US. Is our defence establishment ready for that? Our population psychologically ready for that?

      I’m proposing these, not as my values, but to demonstrate that this is more complicated for the politicians than for ordinary people. PK on Politics Now podcast had a good discussion on this last week.

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  • Salvo@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Let the Christian-Zionist and Judeo-Zionist lobbying begin.

    It came too late for the Al-Jazeera Journalist and hundreds of thousands of Semitic Gazans.

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    • Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Its come so late, but the lobbying and propaganda is always an ongoing threat Australia needs to be alive to. Mike Burgess alluded to similar, without naming names a couple weeks ago.

      I’d say the crimes committed have reached a breaking point where the propaganda and lobbying of Israel has finally failed to be succcessful in light of the reality.

      Its horrible that we couldn’t have the moral courage to be more decisive earlier, and act in the interests of humanity. This is a failing we own as Australians.

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• FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  with a condition that terror group Hamas plays no role in its governance.

  So Australia won’t recognize the state of Palestine then, because Hamas aren’t giving up power or the war would already be over.

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• njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s interesting language. It seems like they’re making a distinction. A distinction between the right to have a state of your own and recognizing the Palestinian state.

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  • Aeao@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s the equivalent of “I’m sorry you felt that was offensive “

    It specifically says Palestine isn’t a state

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  • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s what you do when you don’t want to recognise Palestine but want voters to stop yelling at you to recognise Palestine

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• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  for real this time, i’m gonna do it in just a minute, seriously i’m really about to do it, any minute now, hold onto your butts i’m about to recognize palestine, i’m doing i swear to god, are you ready?

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