If they thought it would do any good, then they wouldn’t have the spine to do it.
We know they don’t have the spine to do anything with any practical effect, because otherwise they would have done it by now. They could have instituted broad trade sanctions, or prevented the export of military goods including F-35 parts and steel armour plating.
Well, what are the costs of moves like those. I’m working on a moral and humanist calculus, Albanese may be partially working on that, but he’ll also be working from a political calculus.
The US has made it pretty clear that Israel is their favourite protectorate. If, as you say in another comment, we are owned by the US, then does that mean in the heirarchy of protectorates we are lower than Israel and therefore likely to seriously damage our standing with the US by imposing arms sanctions? And what does that mean for Australian military defence? And technology supply?
For one thing, we’d have to be ready for massive and disproportionate responses from the fascists in charge in the US. Is our defence establishment ready for that? Our population psychologically ready for that?
I’m proposing these, not as my values, but to demonstrate that this is more complicated for the politicians than for ordinary people. PK on Politics Now podcast had a good discussion on this last week.
Its come so late, but the lobbying and propaganda is always an ongoing threat Australia needs to be alive to. Mike Burgess alluded to similar, without naming names a couple weeks ago.
I’d say the crimes committed have reached a breaking point where the propaganda and lobbying of Israel has finally failed to be succcessful in light of the reality.
Its horrible that we couldn’t have the moral courage to be more decisive earlier, and act in the interests of humanity. This is a failing we own as Australians.
Rosencrantz23@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Finally. Hope it does some good.
zero_gravitas@aussie.zone 8 hours ago
It won’t.
If they thought it would do any good, then they wouldn’t have the spine to do it.
We know they don’t have the spine to do anything with any practical effect, because otherwise they would have done it by now. They could have instituted broad trade sanctions, or prevented the export of military goods including F-35 parts and steel armour plating.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 8 hours ago
Well, what are the costs of moves like those. I’m working on a moral and humanist calculus, Albanese may be partially working on that, but he’ll also be working from a political calculus.
The US has made it pretty clear that Israel is their favourite protectorate. If, as you say in another comment, we are owned by the US, then does that mean in the heirarchy of protectorates we are lower than Israel and therefore likely to seriously damage our standing with the US by imposing arms sanctions? And what does that mean for Australian military defence? And technology supply?
For one thing, we’d have to be ready for massive and disproportionate responses from the fascists in charge in the US. Is our defence establishment ready for that? Our population psychologically ready for that?
I’m proposing these, not as my values, but to demonstrate that this is more complicated for the politicians than for ordinary people. PK on Politics Now podcast had a good discussion on this last week.
Salvo@aussie.zone 9 hours ago
Let the Christian-Zionist and Judeo-Zionist lobbying begin.
It came too late for the Al-Jazeera Journalist and hundreds of thousands of Semitic Gazans.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 8 hours ago
Its come so late, but the lobbying and propaganda is always an ongoing threat Australia needs to be alive to. Mike Burgess alluded to similar, without naming names a couple weeks ago.
I’d say the crimes committed have reached a breaking point where the propaganda and lobbying of Israel has finally failed to be succcessful in light of the reality.
Its horrible that we couldn’t have the moral courage to be more decisive earlier, and act in the interests of humanity. This is a failing we own as Australians.