ChatGPT dissidents, the students who refuse to use AI: ‘I couldn’t remember the last time I had written something by myself’

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• salacious_coaster@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  What a world, where students trying not to cheat is considered remarkable. We haven’t even had LLMs that long.

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  • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The standard degree course is 3-4 years

    I think this year’s intake will be the first where everyone at the uni will be post-chatgpt.

    Between the pandemic and LLMs, I honestly reckon my uni experience from the end of the 00s is completely alien to those doing it today

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  • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Calling it cheating is about as dumb as when math teachers called calculators cheating. If everybody has access to a calculator that can process any division math problem you throw at it, learning how to do long division is suddenly not very useful.

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    • AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world ⁨30⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      When I was in high school, in the 2000s/2010s, our final maths exams included a calculator and a non calculator paper. As far as I’m aware, that’s still typical today. The advent of calculators required us to rethink our approach in teaching and setting tests in maths, but that doesn’t diminish the usefulness of learning long division.

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    • zeca@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Learning to do things yourself is exercise for your brain. It doesnt matter that you wont apply that exact skill later, but being well exercised youll be fit to more easily solve problems in the future. Dont underestimate the destructive impact that outsourcing your cognition can have on you brain.

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    • Asetru@feddit.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The thing is that people get a calculator after they understood how the operations work and have mastered them.

      With AIs, it’s the same. It’s not an issue if your teacher gives you an assignment that allows our requires you to use it. But using it despite not being allowed to is cheating. Same as the calculator.

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    • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Lol you angered the anti-ai crowd!

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    • IsaamoonKHGDT_6143@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Realistically, we learn these manual things by tradition and understand the basics. But in the working world that is automated and we only have to learn other things that are more important.

      The Big Four accounting firms offer AI products.

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• p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Imagine it’s the late 90s to early 2000s, and millions of people are on this anti-Internet bandwagon, while scores and scores of articles (on paper, of course) are always pushing this negative slant towards the Internet. People reading this shit about how the Internet is going to doom us all, and we should reject it in favor of traditional media and research.

  This is what these last few years feel like. Just an outright rejection of useful and life-changing technology, while the corpos embrace it. The complete 180 to how the late 90s actually turned out, when corpos were slow on the uptick with this whole Internet thing.

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  • breecher@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The fact that you are unable to discern two completely distinct phenomenons suggests you may be letting the AI think for you a bit too much.

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    • MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well, every new version of AI that comes out, whether it’s from a company or open source. It has improvements, big or small, although mostly the latter, but to what extent can we say that AI is no longer effective?

      Because if it becomes so effective, if you don’t know how to use it, you’ll miss out on opportunities. We could be caught in a Catch-22 for AI.

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  • lime@feddit.nu ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    difference being, studies back then showed that people became better at research when using the internet, while studies today show them becoming worse when using ai.

    rather than a bicycle for the mind, to multiply your effort, ai is a car for the mind.

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  • scintilla@beehaw.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can you not understand not learning how to think for yourself is bad? Or did the AI you use to run your life tell you not thinking anymore is more efficient?

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    • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m talking about the general sentiment from articles like this, not the article itself. The content of the article doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things.

      It’s the Constant. Fucking. Beratement. of the technology.

      Like, we fucking get it: You’re a technophobe and hate technology, and love to write articles that shit on LLMs, because that’s what gets clicks. And judging from the votes from this forum, most everybody falls for the clickbait, which then generates even more hateful articles because they know it gets them views.

      Meanwhile, out there in the real world, people go to work, and use this sort of technology in their day-to-day jobs. There’s this extreme and jarring disconnect between public opinion, what the news report, and what’s actually happening in real life. I feel like I’m watching Fox News half the time. It’s like all of these haters of LLMs suffer from a massive cognitive dissonance when they are in the workplace. Or they are so behind the times that they aren’t using this technology. Or they don’t even realize the things they use are using this technology behind the scenes.

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• LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  “Dissident”

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  • Sxan@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    "Terrorist"

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