Submitted 1 day ago by tux0r@feddit.org to technology@lemmy.world
https://matduggan.com/what-does-a-post-google-internet-look-like/
Welcome to the future, where asking a question costs $4.99 and you’ll never be able to find out if the answer is right or not.
We know what the internet would have been without Google because some of us lived it. It was mostly decentralised niche forums that you had to know the links for, and you’d receive random emails telling you to visit this or that new site.
It was wholesome.
I had to advertise my first website on paper!
Without Google’s grubby paws across most the web, it’d be much more like the initial intent of what the internet was supposed to be, a welcoming place with open and accessible info!
If you don’t want to pay to access a web search service, just use docker and run your own SearXNG instance! This will also allow you to host our own AI model that searches the web through SearXNG. While it may sound like a lot of work, it truly takes an afternoon and some unused RAM on your PC to make happen, then you’re set up!
While it may sound like a lot of work, it truly takes an afternoon and some unused RAM on your PC to make happen, then you’re set up!
This shit is why open source software has a bad reputation.
You can make an installer like the one Freenet has. Maybe even a wrapper with a tray icon in Tcl/Tk or something like that.
Unless general-purpose Internet services will be banned.
Have you noticed that laws about providing data on bad-bad criminals yadda-yadda implicitly ban everything not allowing to get that data?
And have you noticed that Russian bans of things that can’t be filtered not only implicitly allow whitelist ban of protocols and services, but are also not very far from what EU and US lawmakers want?
In any situation, if what powerful guys are doing seems to promise good things for you, first consider the possibility that you don’t understand what they are doing.
Docker enshitification coming in 3… 2… 1…
Meh there's a ton of other services like opentofu, vms, ect...
Im going to look into this. What’s the benefit of hosting your own searxng instance?
It’s yours, no issues trusting a public instance with your searches. Pages full of settings to tweak as you like. Less problems with an algorithm ‘helping’ you. It averages searches over multiple search engines that you choose, you can set up your own (or a curated) block list of crappy AI slop sites, don’t like fandom.com or something, gone. Manage your own bangs, e.g. !aa for annas-archive. Pipe it through a VPN with gluetun for better isolation. If you have your head around docker already it’s more like half an hour to set up, so why not?
If you don’t want to pay to access a web search service, just use docker
IMO: My personal problem with Docker is that it creates its own kind of vendor lock-in. Docker does not run on the server operating systems I use. The tendency is towards a Linux monoculture and that is never a good idea. Docker is a symptom, not a solution.
Is it really vendor lock-in if you can fork it at your whim?
podman exists and doesn’t force root…
A massive amount of folks are fucked due to using google for email, data storage, calendar, contacts, etc.
Literally just use Wikipedia more
Do we explore it post-Google or post-anything that would take its place?
Because those are two very different scenarios. There are plenty of Big Tech corps that are willing to take Google’s place.
If we actually mean no one does search with targeted advertising and stuff, my bets are on more indie sites popping up, and Fediverse getting stronger as well.
We’ll have more link indices, and more relevant search results hosted on different corners of the Internet.
On the negative: unless open-source projects step up their game, usability and quality of web interfaces will suffer dramatically. And without Fediverse or at least decent webrings, finding basic information and connecting to others might actually get harder.
Using other search engines, I imagine.
Well, I liked how Microsoft teams/Skype made docs easily accessible. But as always MS totally fucked up big time. So I setup my own book library, music library and photo library. I love Joplin for my notes between devices, navidrome for music, photoprism for photos. That’s what I think the future internet should include.
Now AI…instead of us paying for an AI chip to deport our daily motions and emotions to coca cola so it can decide what size shoes we should wear and when, I’d like to propose something. Could a company give me an AI chip that can search and categorize all my files such that I can ask questions about them? But without double crossing me and telling Macy’s about the size of my left ball? No the internet should not be big brother keeping us trapped. It should be freeing… Welcome Mr.Johnson! I’ve calculated your income to inflation risk and have formulated two strategies for improvement. Here’s your personal news… I know of three favorable sexual partners living near us and have organized a fun get together this weekend for you. Your car is fully charged but you should probably do work from home today since its meeting’s day. Your favorite Shakespeare quote, would you like me to recite it in French translated to Japanese with Mexican accent? No? Well, if there’s anything else I can do for you…not for Nike, Nikon, Costco, Apple or Ford or Chiquita Banana, just let me know…
Ah yes, the Volvo S90 and VW Passat, definitely SUVs. Even Google’s screenshots show 40% garbage.
If it looked like ooh.directory I would be delighted.
I hope that won’t disappear anytime soon!
Everything remains the same or with few changes
No different for me. I have never used googol garbage so nothing will change.
I am asking my local searxng. As long as websites produce content there will be search robot that will crawl them, doesn’t matter if it’s google or common crawl dump. The content will be scrapped and indexed and you will be able to chose where to find it. Google just relies on users that are locked in their freemium services. If they can force users to pay the users will pay for search. Fortunately for me I am not one of them. Good luck.
reksas@sopuli.xyz 13 hours ago
just dont use google? I havent used google search for years now and there hasnt been single time where i would have needed to use google search even once. Though unfortunately i’m still bound to the damn gmail because i cant find better alternative for it.
tux0r@feddit.org 12 hours ago
I self-host my e-mails, but that probably isn’t a viable solution for just everyone.
reksas@sopuli.xyz 10 hours ago
i just want a service that i dont have to hassle with, so this would definitely not be good for me 😅 Also i dont think many places even accept self hosted email as “real”, at least some places dont accept alias addresses.
its so annoying when any decent alternative costs money, which isnt very good thing for my “official” email which i need for important things. Dont want to end up in situation where i get locked out of it because i didnt or couldnt pay for some reason. Though i constantly have to slightly fear that with google too since they can lock anyone’s account for any reason they see fit.
eleitl@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
Gmail is way more reliable than anything I could self-host. It’s a huge pile of unsorted junk that is only usable with search.