the cake is a lie

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• taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I mean, they still do (especially with rats). But yeah, blinding kittens and giving people PTSD and such was pretty bad.

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• random_character_a@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If you’re enough out of the box, it’s not unethical till somebody declares so and you can still debate it.

  You’re done with your research before there’s any official ruling. It’ll just limit the next poor sap doing the same.

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  • DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Actually dont talk about a process you know nothing about. Everyone needs to go through an ethics committee because of pieces of shits.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Everyone needs to go through an ethics committee because of pieces of shits.

      I mean, recently, yes.

      But also, “everyone” is the universe of researchers attached to the public university/publication system.

      Meanwhile, in the private sector… Elon Musk Company Neuralink Given Free Pass for Animal Welfare Act Violations, USDA Reveals in Letter to Congress

      Elon Musk’s brain-computer interface company Neuralink violated the federal Animal Welfare Act and received a free pass from the agency responsible for enforcing the law. That’s what the U.S. Department of Agriculture told members of Congress last week in a response to letters sent in December and May. Those letters, led by Reps. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) and Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), requested updates from the agency about a reported USDA Office of Inspector General investigation into Neuralink and recent revelations that the company’s internal animal research oversight board was stacked with members who have conflicts of interest. In his July 14 response, USDA Secretary Thomas Vilsack neither confirmed nor denied the existence of an investigation, but he did confirm that a troubling 2019 incident would have been recorded as a violation of the law if not for the existence of a since rescinded agency policy designed to remove such incidents from public records. The agency agreed to stop applying the policy in 2021 as part of a lawsuit settlement.

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    • random_character_a@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Generalising much?

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  • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    you’re done with your research before there’s any official ruling

    This really isn’t how science works at all. Results that aren’t reproducible and can’t be retested under varying conditions are almost completely meaningless. And no way to find out if it’s (justly or not doesn’t even matter) decided that you can’t do that kind of experiment shortly after your single one experiment is over.

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• zakobjoa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Also, every other question to your patient should be:

  “And then you were sexually exploited by a satanic cult, right? Right?! I’m pretty sure you were.

  Anyway, what’re you doing after this?”

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• ryedaft@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This is just Stanford in any decade

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