Russia is at war with Britain and US is no longer a reliable ally, UK adviser says

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• MapleEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Just a reminder that it took the US years to join the Second World War while the UK was pounded by the Nazis. Canada joined the war nine days after it began. Remember who your friends are. The US isn’t anyone’s friend but it’s own.

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  • Womble@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s not really a fair comparison, Canada wasn’t a fully independent country in 1939, they were still a dominion of the British empire with foreign policy set from London (though otherwise self ruling).

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    • MapleEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Then why did it take 9 days?

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  • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And they had to be dragged into it by the japanese

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    • MapleEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Bombed into it.

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  • systemglitch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fuck America

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  • aaron@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hijacking this post to say: there are too many Americans in this thread arguing about the second world war, somehow apparently suggesting the US is not an untrustable former ally, rather than the important story itself.

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  • LilB0kChoy@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You know the American hegemony people from Europe seem to be quick to complain about these days? That’s directly related to the US joining in WWII.

    The US was largely isolationist though starting to change during that time. That changed drastically after WWII for multiple reasons.

    You know NATO? The thing the US dumps money and resources into? That didn’t exist then but the League of Nations did. You who wasn’t a part of the League of Nations? The US.

    The US isn’t anyone’s friend but it’s own.

    Maybe, but the cherry picked example you’re trying to use looks mighty different in context.

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    • MapleEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Cherry picked? 9 days versus 829 days. Cherry pick my ass.

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• Lodespawn@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  To be fair Russia is at war with the US as well, just they’ve captured the government

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  • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Image

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  • match@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are we the Vichy?

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• Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Can I get paid to state the bleeding obvious?

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  • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    "The foreign policy expert, a longtime Russia watcher, said she had first made a similar warning in 2015, in a revised version of a book she wrote about the Russian president "

    I think in fairness that if she has been warning us for 10 years she’s entitled to a little bit of “I told you so” now that it is bleedingly obvious

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• reactionality@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  US was never anyone’s ally. They’re just the Tony Stark of our universe, selling weapons and propagating war, and seeing themselves as the hero. J’espère qu’ils crèvent aussi au final 🙄.

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• BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Imagine it westerners applied the same standard for “at war” to themselves that they do to Russia: they’d basically have been at war with most of the world for the last century.

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Your ignorance is showing.

    I mean come on even Argentina has barely done anything provocative lately. Meanwhile Russia has literally carried out assassinations in the UK.

    By what metric do you consider this to be an overreaction?

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    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I didn’t mean other countries were doing things do the West, lol.

      I meant the West has constantly been doing to most of the world what westerners are no trying to describe as “war” when Russia does it.

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  • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s Britain who has been at war with Russia for 80 years. Ironically, the only reason was to stay on the good side of its colonist emperor, and be its favorite. That British society is entirely programed to CIA/MI6 Russophobia doesn’t stop when Daddy slaps them. Just got to work harder for daddy’s love, is only political position in Overton window instead of pursuing best relations for citizens.

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• NABDad@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Duh?

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• NKBTN@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Couldn’t we, the UK, just like… stop interfering with Russia? Call a truce of some sort? FWIW I admit I’m completely ignorant as to what’s going on, other than we’re supplying arms to Ukraine. Is it all about that?

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  • blackfire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t know where you have been but you have some reading to do.

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    • NKBTN@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Links, please

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  • ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The UK could, if Russia would stop interfering with Ukraine.

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    • NKBTN@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What’s Ukraine got to do with the UK though?

      Obvs I’m against war in principle, but why are we even involved in something several thousand miles away that doesn’t border us or even the Commonwealth?

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  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hey Ivan, join the Russian infantry, they are constantly looking for canon fodder.

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