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Microsoft announces new Windows changes in response to the EU's (DMA) Digital Markets Act for EEA users, including Edge not prompting users to set it as the default unless opened
Submitted 11 months ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2025/06/02/updates-to-windows-for-the-digital-markets-act/
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ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 11 months ago
RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
But I thought Edge was so crucial for the system to function it can’t be removed? That’s what MS told me at least, and I definitely trust them
purplemonkeymad@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No that’s internet explorer. They “removed” it, but really it’s just hidden in a way so you can’t run it directly.
leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
I just found out the other day that items pinned to the taskbar are in %AppData%\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\TaskBar. 🤦♂️
Microsoft is a sad parody of itself.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Windows 11 does not allow Edge to be removed. There may be some roundabout ways to do it, but the system actively puts up a LOT of roadblocks. It’s extremely trashy.
vermaterc@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
I love being in EU
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 11 months ago
IMHO modern personal computing is as bullshit as XV century tournament armor.
Something should be done.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Install Linux
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I already use Linux and FreeBSD.
Thorry84@feddit.nl 11 months ago
Please let them also remove all the XBox nonsense. The other day my laptop from work that runs Windows 11 Pro gave a big ass prompt if I didn’t want to try XBox Game Pass with the new Doom game. It’s basically an ad for games on a Pro machine, ridiculous.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Check out the debloat script. It can’t get rid of everything (like Edge) but it makes a HUGE difference.
Thorry84@feddit.nl 11 months ago
Thanks for the suggestion. It’s my laptop from work, I have zero say in what software it runs, I don’t even have admin rights on it. None of my personal stuff runs Windows. But it might help other people on their own machines.
carrylex@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You can already do that:
Get-AppxPackage "Microsoft.XboxApp" | Remove-AppxPackage Get-AppxPackage "Microsoft.XboxIdentityProvider" | Remove-AppxPackage -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue Get-AppxPackage "Microsoft.XboxSpeechToTextOverlay" | Remove-AppxPackage Get-AppxPackage "Microsoft.XboxGameOverlay" | Remove-AppxPackage Get-AppxPackage "Microsoft.XboxGamingOverlay" | Remove-AppxPackage Get-AppxPackage "Microsoft.Xbox.TCUI" | Remove-AppxPackage Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\GameBar" -Name "AutoGameModeEnabled" -Type DWord -Value 0 Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\System\GameConfigStore" -Name "GameDVR_Enabled" -Type DWord -Value 0 If (!(Test-Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\GameDVR")) { New-Item -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\GameDVR" | Out-Null } Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\GameDVR" -Name "AllowGameDVR" -Type DWord -Value 0
You’re welcome
Damage@feddit.it 11 months ago
Every time I see PowerShell syntax, I have this dissonance where I feel like it should be better than Unix shells, its command are surely more descriptive, still… It disgusts me for some reason. Too long, maybe?
pneumatron@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
That’s a ridiculous step by step guide. Let me see if I can simplify.
Step 1: plugin your ventoy flash drive with Linux distro
tauren@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You know what is truly ridiculous? It’s when I installed Windows N (the version without all that bullshit), but each time I launched a game, it complained that some Xbox app was missing. When I finally said, ‘Fuck it, let’s install that crap,’ I learned that it isn’t even possible to install on that Windows edition. Yet they would still show me the error about the missing app nonetheless. Every. Single. Time.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Microsoft: “Suck it, Americans”
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Too little too late? Some European businesses have already made the change to open source. Shit should be free to anyone doing business with it anyway.
yesman@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Windows users are a revenue stream, not customers. M$ views it’s users as a sort of raw material that can be processed with dark patterns for ads and subscriptions. And like everything else, Americans are treated with the most disrespect and coercion.
atlien51@lemm.ee 11 months ago
THATS RIGHT MICROSOFT
Eximius@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Since this sublemmy doesn’t ave any requirement for the title to be the same as the source, can we actually have a correct title: “Microsoft abides to laws in EU and does <…>”.
The title makes it appear as if it’s out of charity and goodness of their corporate heart. (Lie)
Anivia@feddit.org 11 months ago
The title makes it appear as if it’s out of charity and goodness of their corporate heart
Only to someone that has been living under a rock for the last decade. Everyone else is able to deduct from the “to European users” in the title that the EU forced their hand
Eximius@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Correct. You’re right, without context (or as you put it - living under a rock) one comes to the wrong conclusion.
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
So… they’re doing exactly what apple was forced to do.
tabular@lemmy.world 11 months ago
🐧
idriss@lemm.ee 11 months ago
The only correct answer. Also too little too late for MS. Suck up a little bit of inconvenience to gain back your life with 🐧
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
And local accounts when?
Strider@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Still using it that way.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 11 months ago
NICE
latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
I’m morbidly eager to see how they’ll handle the Win 10 EoL (yeah, yeah, it ain’t dyin’, just not getting updated, same thing to me tbh) in October. I bet it’ll be a shitshow.
thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 11 months ago
No more security patches. That should be dead to you if you don’t want to host thousands of parasitic bots & malwares
yucandu@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m convinced the whole “your computer will instantly turn into a botnet that cripples children’s hospitals the moment you disable Windows Update” thing is part of Microsoft’s internet propaganda.
Like there are sysadmins for pretty big industries that schedule updates, sometimes once a month or even less frequently. Why aren’t they worried about all the 0-day remote code execution exploits that supposedly exist every single day?
Enkrod@feddit.org 11 months ago
Gotta LOVE the EU, they’re working at a glacial pace but sooner or later (most likely later) it changes the landscape for the better.
If only enshittification would happen slow enough for the EU to catch up to.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have a copy of Windows 10 LTSC that I have installed on a virtual machine just in case I need the one last program that I use that I cannot get to work on Linux.
Lately I upgraded my machine and had to reinstall everything. As I was installing Windows on my VM, it started demanding that I create an account and wouldn’t let me proceed without one, asked be to associate third party accounts to my OS and was generally being extremely intrusive and forceful in ways I didn’t remember it being before, like opening Edge and forcing me to click through an introduction that I didn’t want without giving me the option to close it. I then realized that I had forgotten to disable network access to my VM and that Windows had downloaded updates during the install.
I immediately destroyed that VM and started over again, this time without allowing it to connect to internet. Suddenly the experience was far better.
The moment I had let Windows connect to the internet it had thoroughly enshittified itself. It let me appreciate how badly Microsoft has enshittified Windows 10 over the years ever since its release. We are far away from the Windows 7 days.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 11 months ago
I wish Microsoft would just let me buy a copy of Windows 11 Ultimate and be done with it. No restrictions, no bloat, privacy, just an exchange of money for a product.
Goretantath@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Ltsc or ltsc iot? Only the IOT lasts long enough and is debloated.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
They’re moving faster than any other government regulatory body.
Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I agree it feels very slow, but identifying the correct action and then building consensus around that action takes time. Once consensus is built it is very stable though. That is supposed to be the biggest benefit of democracy; stability built through coalition.
rockerface@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I wish we could join soon, but that’s also happening at the glacial pace
hansolo@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I reeeeally wish they would just embrace and find open source software as a public good and get it over with. The equally glacial pace of adoption of OSS to avoid vendor lock in with MS is not exactly giving the OSS world the boost it deserves.
thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 11 months ago
Schleswig Holstein (sp?) are doing so, ditto Openhagen and Aarhaus (DK) and I believe France are looking into it
barsoap@lemm.ee 11 months ago
The EU is pumping a lot of money into FLOSS, often not even for administrative use (like, say, lemmy gets EU funding), but at far as adoption rate in administration is concerned well the Commission is one of the worst offenders. As in municipalities realising they can’t fully switch to LibreOffice because they need to apply for EU funds and the commission only accepts .docx. Parliament happily spending money on something and the executive getting around to getting its shit together are two different things.
OTOH it’s not all about Microsoft and the like, a lot of administrative software is special-purpose, written by private companies according to specs, paid for by public money. Making that kind of thing open source is a no-brainer. It’s also a way better use of money to improve and customise some open source ERP than to go to SAP and get a customised solution there.
And a lot of that has to do with lacking competency in administration – outside of police, specifically IT forensics, it’s usually quite dire. States have no issues figuring out whether a blueprint makes sense when they’re issuing building permits, road and railroad engineering, of course they can do that, but IT? Nope. Bring in the private consultants and private consultants are basically the marketing arm of big software companies.
Enkrod@feddit.org 11 months ago
Yeah, well the DMA wasn’t going to cost most EU politicians much of their good ol’ corporate lobbying monies. But switching the EU off of Micro$oft would definitely not only lose those funds, but also introduce way more vigorous counter-lobbying.
One pro of the EU’s glacial pace is that they frog-boil the shareholders, meaning most counter-lobbying activities are relatively tame.
But damn, do I wish they would just give the finger to all those ~american~ corporations and start a 4-year transition to OSS.
InFerNo@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
Wanted to play a game on my kid’s computer that had windows 11 N or some shit. Couldn’t play because it needed the “media pack”, which in its turn installs everything N stands for. Clown world.