Submitted 11 months ago by spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone to newcommunities@lemmy.world
!mensliberation@lemmy.ca
NOTE: This is not a misogynistic community a la MRA
I like the concept of being able to talk openly about men’s issue. That liberation name is unfortunate; in my opinion, it definitely sounds at least apologetic towards misogyny. What do we have to be liberated from?
Consider that patriarchy hurts men too. There’s a lot of pressure to be a certain way in order to “be a man”, no crying or expressing emotions beyond anger or happiness, gotta be tough, that sort of thing. We can and should liberate ourselves from those toxic expectations
Naw you nailed it. It’s a reference to Women’s Lib
It’s a reference to the women’s lib movement. You’re to be liberated from traditional gender roles
Sure, but if you have to spend this much time explaining what you mean, it seems counterproductive. And it’s going to attract the toxic personalities and opinions that we’re supposed to be liberating from.
The name isn’t new, it comes from the same place as women’s lib, afaik the concept of Mens Lib has been around since the 70s. We all want to be free of harmful and unnecessary gender stereotypes. r/menslib was a great subreddit.
I didn’t participate in the sub much but I did appreciate having a that view come in my feed here and there. And without having to invade a women’s space.
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I see one post that is 3 hours old and all the rest are over 6 months old. Any idea why?
Just a fairly inactive community. Was hoping to breathe a little life into it with this post.
sloonark@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I like the idea behind the community but it is a terrible name. Without reading an explanation, most people would assume it was some toxic, misogynistic group. I only know what it refers to because I bothered reading some of the comments here.
I’m sure there are much better names, such as Positive Masculinity for example.
spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Also positive masculinity tends to still be rooted in fairly patriarchal ideas of what it means to be a man in ways that liberation from gender roles specifically does not.
v81@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Your right about the assumption… … But the assumptions are also part of the problem.
Candelestine@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well, you’re right, that was my initial assumption upon immediately seeing the name. It also aroused enough of my curiosity to check further though.
Emperor@feddit.uk 11 months ago
The men’s liberation movement is a concept going back 50+ years. It would be difficult to change that at this point.
Also r/MensLib is a large, well-known sub with a well-defined remit. If you are going to start something similar on here it would be confusing not to go with a similar name. However, because of its scope, from what I saw, it tended to be a bit alienating to those who didn’t toe the party line.
So there is room for a community focused on a broader, looser discussion of the topic (although it’d need strict moderating), like:
Healthy Masculinity? It seems to be the more accepted term, although they can be used interchangeably.
spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Make it happen! Not a man but would love to see it out there