noyb sends Meta 'cease and desist' letter over AI training. European Class Action as potential next step

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• gravitywell@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOYB in case anyone else was wondering, I’d never heard of them before but it looks like they have a pretty good history of holding corps accountable.

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  • Holli25@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They are responsible for getting both “data protection adequacy agreements” for the US thrown out in court (see Max Schrems).

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• toastmeister@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Europe’s gonna cut itself off from AI and miss this tech boom. At least they still have internal combustion cars, until China eats their lunch.

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  • vivendi@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Meta’s recent LLAMA models are a disaster and worse they only masquerade as open models. Meanwhile Europe has it’s own AI research centers like Mistral who make really good models under the Apache 2 license.

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  • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Surely there is a middle ground from bending over for technogarchy and not having as wealthy an economy?

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• Mbourgon@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Unsure what NOYB is, even after skimming this, but an interesting bit in there about how people wouldn’t have the right to be forgotten once the AI has been trained.

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  • sznowicki@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think there’s some „reasonable” keyword in the right to be forgotten. Like first if you have some old backups on tapes and you must keep them for whatever reason still for few years m, you can deny altering them if it the cost would be exorbitant and you ensure the users won’t come back after a recovery from said backup.

    Also they might train their models on pseudo-anonymized dataset so as long it’s too expensive to deanonymize the user data it could be fine in terms of GDPR.

    For example: you generate car trips stats per city in a country, per day. You could argue that you don’t need to delete user data that is part of this set if you ensure there are always enough of trips recorded (so can’t deanonymise someone from a single entry) and also it would falsify your historical stats.

    At my company who likes to be super compliant we do remove people from this kind of stats using some pseudo-anonymous references. So if you remove your account, there’s an event that changes the historical analytics data and removes all traces of your activity. But that’s because we can and want to be cool (company culture principles).

    Other data we have (website analytics) are impossible to go into this process as we ensure we never know WHO did something. We only know what and when.

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• AstralPath@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Does anyone onow if there is a NOYB equivalent in North America?

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  • HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The EFF maybe, but the USAs lack of a GDPR equivalent makes it harder.

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    • RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      CA has some strong privacy protections and a good chunk of the country’s population. IANAL but if I were to hope for a similar lawsuit it would come from CA state court.

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