because even though the laws changed, people are still bigoted assholes.
Why does digital violence against LGBTI people in Thailand and Taiwan continue even after marriage equality?
Submitted 5 weeks ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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Skullgrid@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Exactly, society != government.
HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
“Digital Violence”
Are they playing games?
Very poor choice of wording if you want people to take it seriously.
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
The fuck is digital violence?
Pro@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Read the article to get more info.
activists in Thailand. Often, those who speak out about human rights are punished for pursuing human rights activism by doxing, threats of violence and hateful anti-LGBTI speech.
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Hate sure. Violence? Really?
Hate isn’t violence hate is a byproduct of free speech and liberty. I mean getting doxed and actionable calls/threats of violence should be a crime. But mean words is just life.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Mean words online by people who don’t even dare lift their voices in public.
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Ahh yes free speech
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
people are using stronger words to mean things that are related. Shouting at someone is violence now, inapproprite touching (sexual assult/harrasment) is rape, being an asshole online is digitial violence.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
It really devalues the meaning of the words and makes it harder for people to take real accusations seriously. I once read an article of someone claiming they had been sexually assaulted on WoWs text chat. Like what the fuck, mute them, report them, move on. You can call it harrasment if you like but there’s nothing sexual about it, it’s letters on a monitor.
Varying9125@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
what is the I in LGBTI? I’ve never seen it before
macronage@startrek.website 5 weeks ago
Intersex- people whose sex at birth isn’t clearly male or female
Varying9125@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
ty that makes sense.
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Easy. Nationalize social media and turn them into democratic cooperatives with the mandate to enforce strict moderation on hate speech.
lime@feddit.nu 5 weeks ago
nationalize
cooperatives
make up your mind
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
there’s kids on here , they don’t know what the fuck they’re on about and will grab the most extreme thing they can think of to hang their hat on without knowing what it means.
“I’m an anticapitalist and what’s anticapitalist ? Things being owned by the state! What else? Co-operatives”
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
nationalize social media
Okay asshole, what about the social media that’s literally just servers running in some hobbiest’s basement?
Transitioning companies into co-ops would be a better solution as it gets rid of the worst of capitalism while leaving as much of the existing infrastructure as humanely possible.
Basically just send middle management and up packing.
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Yes. Cooperatives = co-ops. Let the workers (and possibly users) elect management and what to do with profits.
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Holy fuck the death of free speech. Do u hear urself. Ur on lemmy literally designed to be impossible to do such a thing.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
Oh yes, let’s nationalize the communications platforms and give the government direct control over how people express themselves. Surely the government is 100% trustworthy and will not use that power to suppress criticism or political opponents, or track people who are ‘unpatriotic’, or redefine ‘hate speech’ in a way that benefits the current regime. No such thing has ever happened in the history of ever. What could possibly go wrong.
SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
Yes, privatize! That has worked so well every time…
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Yes the same heavy moderation that worked wonders for curtailing the rise of hate speech online over the last decade. It did not at all just forced and incentivized the hate mongers to simply build their own platforms and audiences were they cannot be fact checked by anyone sane.
Let people spout and indulge in all the hate speech they want, instead have social mechanisms to dissuade from it. You know, like the real fucking world. The downvotes on reddit are such a simple mechanism that works at a level similar to how social feedback leads to self censorship people in the real world.
Also fuck outta here with fact checking bs. You don’t hear more disinformation than the kind that gets repeated in barbershops daily, even before the internet and no one ever thought you had to fact check the shit Tony is saying this week. You just learned to take everything with a grain of salt.
JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
What you propose is simple (as in simplistic), but far from easy. Content moderation at scale is extremely difficult, if not impossible. See “Masnick’s Impossibility Theorem.”
Also, deplatforming bigots is difficult and ineffective:
- www.cl.cam.ac.uk/archive/rja14/…/vu2023no.pdf
- theregreview.org/…/mcdonald-the-limits-of-deplatf… (bonus link/spoiler alert: it’s a monopoly issue theregreview.org/…/englebert-a-role-for-antitrust…)
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Because marriage is the problem not the solution. The state should have no role in enforcing religious ceremonies and privileging those who participate. The idea of “marriage equality” is complete bullshit since marriage overtly favors religion, hetero-normativity, etc. Fuck religion. Fuck marriage. Fuck homophobes.
NahMarcas@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Because now starting counting lgtb violence while before was not counting by autorities
exu@feditown.com 5 weeks ago
Because there are assholes everywhere