The company is cracking down on the ability to install Windows 11 on older PCs that don’t support TPM 2.0
But still runs fine in a VM (where it belongs to) on Linux on a system without TPM, right?
Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
Submitted 1 year ago by Irelephant@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/news/638967/microsoft-windows-11-account-internet-bypass-blocked
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MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
hemmes@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No, your guest VM still requires TPM enabled
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
Guest VM? Embedded VM? Does the VM or the host system need TPM?
jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Windows 11 is enshittfying a feature that let you skip making a Microsoft account
There, FTFY.
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 year ago
One or all of em.
dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve used the unpatchable Win11 account loophole, that exploits a functionality of your pc, where you wipe your boot drive, and install NixOS on it
Hominine@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s a neat trick!
52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Is it possible to skip account creation by installing while not connected to the internet?
windowsphoneguy@feddit.org 1 year ago
That’s what they’re disabling now
Skipcast@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nope, you need an internet connection to get past initial setup. Unless you use pro, there you can select to domain join computer instead and it’ll let you create a local account
kernelle@0d.gs 1 year ago
You are wrong for now, it is still possible.
- Ctrl + Shift + F3 during setup gives you access to sysprep
- In an admin CMD you can excecute the BypassNRO.cmd script. In C:\Windows\System32\oobe\
- I have encountered one 24H2 installation where the oobe folder was empty, but if you copy the file from another device it works just the same
- Reboot from sysprep and you can now select “Install without internet” when selecting a WIFI
This will not work if you’re already connected to a wifi. BypassNRO sets a registry flag, so it’s only a matter of time till they patch it out, but it works for now.
Cyber@feddit.uk 1 year ago
Ok, so setup a DC (in a VM on your linux laptop), install Win11 joined to that domain, create a local user, then leave the domain & destroy the VM…?
Or install Linux 👍🏻
jasoman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
To be far this command was only needed for win 11 Home. Pro did not need a command as the option is available through normal prompts windows gives you.
Dlolor@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I think that option was removed even on Pro a pretty long time ago, no? At least the last couple of times I installed W11 Pro the graphical option was nowhere to be found. It used to be available easily enough that anyone could choose it if they didn’t blindly click Next, then it got more and more hidden away and now I’m 99% sure you need the command unless you prep the ISO using Rufus and its function to create a local account for you. On that note, I wonder if this will affect the Rufus method too…
jasoman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It is under sign in option when you get to it then choose domain join. This get you to create a local account.
seven_phone@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Describing the ability to make a local account as a loophole is letting a little too much real intention slip out.
jasoman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This is only for the Home version of win 11.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 year ago
But not for the home version of Wubuntu 11.
Freewheel@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Just one more reason not to use Windows, As if forcing data scrapers down our throat in the guise of AI wasn’t enough.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Even MORE reason not to upgrade!
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Will people just stop using windows already. I get for work but if you just waiting on that one game then fuck off it’s not worth it. I gave up some of my favorite games because it wasn’t worth using Windows
Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 1 year ago
For people with “that one game” there is a middle ground. Mine is Destiny 2 and they use a version of easy anticheat that refuses to run on Linux. My solution was to buy a $150 used Dell on eBay, a $180 GPU to be able to output to my 4 high-res displays, and install Debian + moonlight on it. I moved my gaming PC downstairs and a combination of wake-on-lan + sunshine means that I can game at functionally native performance, streaming from the basement. In my setup, windows only exists to play games on.
The added bonus here is now I can also stream games to my phone, or other ~thin clients~ in the house, saving me upgrade costs if I want to play something in the living room or upstairs. All you need is the bare minimum for native-framerate, native-res decoding, which you can find in just about anything made in the last 5-10 years.
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
I loved destiny 2 but I gave it up. Fuck Bungie because someone got it to work and they banned them
Zanathos@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Proton is amazing though. I got Lego LotR working on my steam deck by installing some DirectX 9 dependency to fix a graphical glitch with the game. Runs like a dream.
sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Are they trying to kill windows on purpose?
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Yeah, they probably want to kill it and switch people over to a cloud service with a monthly subscription.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I don’t know what is going on at Microsoft. I’m starting to think that they are trying to pivot to a completely different business model. In addition to this Windows 11 crap and XBox seemingly being given up on, they appear to be losing their embedded market as well. In the past, if you saw any screen in an industrial setting, there’s a good chance that there was the embedded Windows version behind that screen. Lately, all the new products are moving over to Linux.
sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
What advantage embedded windows gave to a manufacturer for it to be worth paying license fee for? I kinda feel this part is difficult for Microsoft to compete at
ripcord@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They are, and have said they are.
Subscriptions are the wave of the future.
dota__2@lemmy.world 1 year ago
companies do things like this when they feel they have the power in the business/customer relationship and there’s no regulations to stop them.
heavydust@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
They have done that for years, and every time there is an army of geeks and gamers who look for registry hacks or PowerShell scripts to install Windows anyway. If even those geeks do not want to spend 5 minutes looking for doc on how to install Ubuntu (which is a billion times easier to use than Windows), you can be sure Windows will never die.
Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I wouldn’t say that, more just abusing a monopoly.
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The sad thing is they know the large majority of users will comply. Most people put familiarity and convenience above their own privacy and general well-being.
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 1 year ago
The fact that Facebook still exists is proof of this.
systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Games. Most of the games I play don’t play well with Linux.
Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 1 year ago
Also, I will not be surprised if they audaciously disable Win 10 Home edition for security purposes once end of life is reached.
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Once steamos drops support and starts coming pre-loaded on laptops and pre-built desktops it’s over for their consumer division.
singletona@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yet another reason to not use windows 11.