Awesome. So much for “Swiss privacy” huh? Where the hell do I move from Proton? 😮💨
Secure encryption and online anonymity are now at risk in Switzerland
Submitted 1 week ago by Forumite@lemm.ee to privacyguides@lemmy.one
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LiveLM@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
N0x0n@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Swiss privacy and neutrality died the day they refused asylum to Snowden. The EU is just US’s little pet.
merde@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
on the same page ☞ France rejects controversial encryption backdoor provision
this@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
I switched to tutanota for email and mullvad for VPN as soon as they came out as pro-trump.
MasterBuilder@lemmy.one 6 days ago
Tutonota is German, which is part of the already full on surveilance state.
endofline@lemmy.ca 6 days ago
There was never swiss privacy - “crypto ag” and Fichenaffäre for the starters
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 days ago
"This categorisation would aim to include any online service with a turnover of $100 million or more than 5,000 active users.
Meaning, it’s not about criminals but for spying on common people.
easily3667@lemmus.org 5 days ago
Everyone is a criminal
marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
How do they plan to “ban” encryption? What are they going to do if I get a VPN and download the Signal APK?
Linearity@infosec.pub 1 week ago
To be fair, I’m pretty sure my country (Jordan) has the wireguard protocol banned ☹️
marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
I see. You need either IPSEC/OVPN or need to encapsulate wireguard in an SSL tunnel. It’s a little involved but possible to do
mac@lemm.ee 6 days ago
Capturing DNS and show of force is normally how they do it. Obviously won’t stop those with the technical know how, but will stop 99% of people.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
andy yen would probably happily hand over all your data to the us government anyway
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
That’s childish, petulant nonsense, especially since that would be illegal under Swiss law, even if this law is amended. Not to mention, it isn’t Andy Yen who gets to decide that anyway. It’s the board of directors, of which Tim motherfucking Berners-Lee is a member. You know, father of the World Wide Web.
easily3667@lemmus.org 5 days ago
They said would, not will. And you thinking a known Nazi sympathizer wouldn’t sell you out for a headpat is the childish part.
sudneo@lemm.ee 5 days ago
- proton.me/blog/european-tech-alternatives
- proton.me/blog/apple-ends-adp-in-uk
- proton.me/blog/big-tech-data-requests-surge
- proton.me/blog/trump-controls-nsa-fbi
Just in the last few months. Their position has been always crystal clear on this issue. Please stop spreading misinformation for a personal grudge. Even one person who doesn’t switch from Gmail or Outlook to Proton (the closest privacy a friendly replacement) because of your bs is an unnecessary damage.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
im aware of their whitewashing pr.
im also aware they literally posted their right wing nonsense on their official bsky before deleting
hubobes@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
The government already lost a case against Threema when they tried to force them to spy on their users. This is a Verordnung which is not a law but has to adhere to existing laws. So it might be challenged once more.
If this trough though than it has always been legal and it is just the executive making it an actual thing now.
neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
That will immediately get a referendum and get smashed down.
Nothing to worry about.
melvisntnormal@feddit.uk 5 days ago
The article seems to say that it’s not a bill that goes through Parliament, more that it’s akin to secondary legislation, which can’t be subject to a petition? Meaning that the Swiss people would need to petition for a constitutional amendment rather than an optional referendum, which makes this slightly more complicated (and requires a lot more effort)
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
Ugh. This fight is never ending. I feel like after a while you just get totally burned out of fighting and have to pass it on to others.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 1 week ago
That’s what they count on. They only have to get it through once. We have to fight and win every time, as the UK recently found out. Vigilance has to be key, no matter how hard they make it. But I concede it’s tiring as all hell.
railcar@midwest.social 6 days ago
This has been going on since the early 1990s. Just keep up the fight.
ogmios@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
That’s what raising a family is about.